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12-19-2012 at 6:31 PM
silvie25
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Re: reco forward facing car seat

Who said I was talking about YOU???
 
12-20-2012 at 12:58 AM
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silvie25:
Who said I was talking about YOU???
Chill. If you've been taking you lo to well baby checks and vaccinations, they are supposed to be doing patient education and providing hand outs explaining this to you. The current handouts are outdated, but they all say 1 year and 22lbs (if lo hits 22lbs before one year, you have to get a seat with a higher rf limit). The nurses have been instructed to pass on the new canadian pediatric society info of a bare minimum of age two. If they have not done this at your six month check, they are not doing there job.

If you have not been taking lo to get vaccinations, you would not have got these, doctors/pedis don't give that info out here. That's public health's realm. The link dhviel posted is current. If you need help choosing a seat, wander over to the Gear board, we'll sort you out and if you need, find you a tech in your area. 

And at some point lo will be fine and learn to cope with sitting alone in the back seat.  I'm sure your dh would like to have your company in the front seat.


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12-20-2012 at 1:00 AM
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Skipping all the RFing debate (and FTR, I am pro extended rear facing but I think other people have covered it).  I think people are skipping over a VERY important part of your post.  Regardless of height or weight, your daughter can NOT be turned forward facing until she is at least 12 months old.  That is a minimum so since she's only got one pound left on her seat but 3 months until she could even legally forward face so the decision on what seat to buy is likely already made for you.

She is in Canada, and I am not sure what the laws are there. It could be 1 AND 20, but I have no idea since I am not a tech there. The seats may or may not specify 1 AND 20 (or 1 year, 22lbs and 34" as most Safety 1st, Eddie Bauer and Cosco seats do).

To the OP, I have no idea why you are sitting in the back. There really is no reason too, so I wouldn't use that to justify turning her at all. 

I read a blog, which I would post, but I don't want a lot of traffic going there. Its about an 18 month old boy, who was forward facing, and in a head on collision with his parents. He died. On impact, his neck snapped. He had no outward injuries. Spinal decapitation in infants/toddlers is a real thing, and accidents are the #1 killer of children.

Please, please do your research.

All infant seats here were bumped to minimum 22lbs a few years ago.

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12-20-2012 at 4:55 AM
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silvie25:
You know what shame on all of you who are taking out this b!itchy I know it all attitude. We are ALL in the same boat here. This forum is for people to come on here and talk and ask questions to other moms that potentially have more experience and vice versa. All of you who are coming down on my question, and rudely answering other peoples posts and comments should not even be on this site. Who do you all think you are?? While I really appreciate some of the helpful pp's that shared their thoughts and ideas about my post. The rest should be ashamed of yourselves. Wow your a full time mom that knows everything about safety because you do your research.... CONGRATS. I sit in the back with my 9 month still because I like to keep her company. So while I could "sit in the front like a normal person" I prefer to sit in the back like an !diot. As for the carseat, it was only a question... I haven't gone out and bought a new carseat, certainly without doing my research...would anyone ?!! And I would never put my child in risk. So calm down and go back to being this amazing FTM who clearly has some sort of insecurity about something . Its people like you that make new moms afraid of making new mommy friends.

Well clearly we misunderstood.  Since you were asking about a FF carseat for a 9 month old and all.  People are just trying to protect your kid since you apparently asked this question before you did any research.  Why would anyone assume you'd do research after the fact?  And you don't get to tell people whether or not they belong on a public message board. If you can't take real responses to your questions, then maybe you're the one who shouldn't be here.


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12-20-2012 at 6:58 AM
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I do get to make that decision that certain people don't belong on a board like this because there are other moms out here that maybe really take these comments and jabs to heart. We are all adults here, and its a shame that we aren't all on the same page. There are ways to communicate your thoughts and feelings without sounding like a bully. And the pp did. Like I said before, I'm not going out and buying a seat and doing research later. As my op said, I was looking for a forward facing combo that could be broken down as she gets older. So all of us should chill. I would never put my child in danger. So again, thank you to people who actually took the time to send me links even though I am in Canada and laws are different. But the others leave a sour taste in my mouth of feeling ganged up on by a rude bully.
 
12-20-2012 at 7:37 AM
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silvie25:
I do get to make that decision that certain people don't belong on a board like this because

Factually incorrect.  I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt.  But unless you are secretly the Master and Commander of the Internet, you aren't in charge of who can and cannot post.  If you are looking for puppies and rainbows, go to babygaga.  Otherwise, put your big girl panties on.


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12-20-2012 at 8:17 AM
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silvie25:
I do get to make that decision that certain people don't belong on a board like this because

Factually incorrect.  I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt.  But unless you are secretly the Master and Commander of the Internet, you aren't in charge of who can and cannot post.  If you are looking for puppies and rainbows, go to babygaga.  Otherwise, put your big girl panties on.

wow you got me. Good for you. You won. You must get great satisfaction knowing you can treat people the way you do behind a computer. Makes you wonder what you're really like in real life. Probably a very insecure person. No more posts this is out of control now.
 
12-20-2012 at 8:31 AM
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silvie25:
wow you got me. Good for you. You won. You must get great satisfaction knowing you can treat people the way you do behind a computer. Makes you wonder what you're really like in real life. Probably a very insecure person. No more posts this is out of control now.

It has nothing to do with being insecure or not.  I'm not insecure, but I don't care if you think that I am or whatever picture you have to paint to yourself of what a terrible person you believe me to be.  This is not a quaint mom's group.  It's a public internet forum.  I've posted things on here before and gotten flamed or had my a$s handed to me.  You cannot take things personally because in the world wide web, there will always be someone who agrees, someone who doesn't agree, someone who tells you something supportive, someone who tells you you are terrible... whatever.  Take what you want, ignore what you don't want. 

 


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12-20-2012 at 9:06 AM
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I'll take this back to your original issue...regarding car seat suggestions.  I have this car seat, http://www.evenflo.com/product.aspx?id=332&pfid=4281.  It's super easy to install, easy to adjust as they grow, and I just overall LOVE IT!!!  It rear facing to 40lbs, 37 inches.  It forward faces up to 65lbs, 50 inches.  Then is a booster up to 100lbs, 57 inches. 

And I'll add that I don't think it's "that" odd that you sit in the back with LO to keep her company.  I've known lots of people that have done this.  However, I'd suggest maybe start sitting in the front a little more.  If you don't I'm afraid that you'll have issues going anywhere later down the road as LO will be so used to you sitting in the back.


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12-20-2012 at 11:37 AM
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Love my Safety First Alpha and Omega, it goes down to booster

 
12-20-2012 at 2:58 PM
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WifeyMommy2011:
Love my Safety First Alpha and Omega, it goes down to booster

Its an ok seat, but makes a deadly booster. It is rated on the Top 10 Worst Boosters every year by the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration.It positions the safety belt across the abdomen and not across the top of thighs. I would definitely suggest a different booster when the time comes.

http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr101311.html


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12-20-2012 at 3:03 PM
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jmccall79:

I'll take this back to your original issue...regarding car seat suggestions.  I have this car seat, http://www.evenflo.com/product.aspx?id=332&pfid=4281.  It's super easy to install, easy to adjust as they grow, and I just overall LOVE IT!!!  It rear facing to 40lbs, 37 inches.  It forward faces up to 65lbs, 50 inches.  Then is a booster up to 100lbs, 57 inches. 

And I'll add that I don't think it's "that" odd that you sit in the back with LO to keep her company.  I've known lots of people that have done this.  However, I'd suggest maybe start sitting in the front a little more.  If you don't I'm afraid that you'll have issues going anywhere later down the road as LO will be so used to you sitting in the back.

The Symphony is a decent seat, but you can only use the seat rear-facing in the lowest two head rest positions, so it might get most kids to 2 but not all rear-facing. Also, FWIW, the seat has an 8 year expiration and some kids will still need a booster at 8 years old.  It is also pretty narrow, so unless you have a pretty petite kid, it will start to get uncomfortable mostly likely around 4-5 years old. 


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12-20-2012 at 3:07 PM
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WifeyMommy2011:
Love my Safety First Alpha and Omega, it goes down to booster

Also, this seat requires that a child be 1 year AND 22lbs AND 34" tall in order to face forward. Just a PSA. 


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12-20-2012 at 10:25 PM
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SuperCuteBenz:

WifeyMommy2011:
Love my Safety First Alpha and Omega, it goes down to booster

Also, this seat requires that a child be 1 year AND 22lbs AND 34" tall in order to face forward. Just a PSA. 

Yup, agree with SCB. And the AOE, sorry pp, is a shitastic seat. Have it long enough and you'll not like it. Especially since they haven't fixed the crappy webbing issue in over ten years.

OP, you were linked actual legit Canadian sites. I'm sure it's come through loud and clear that you shouldn't rf before one, but really age two. Try a Graco MyRide, it's budget friendly and will more than do the job for some time.  


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12-21-2012 at 4:40 AM
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silvie25:
I do get to make that decision that certain people don't belong on a board like this because there are other moms out here that maybe really take these comments and jabs to heart. We are all adults here, and its a shame that we aren't all on the same page. There are ways to communicate your thoughts and feelings without sounding like a bully. And the pp did. Like I said before, I'm not going out and buying a seat and doing research later. As my op said, I was looking for a forward facing combo that could be broken down as she gets older. So all of us should chill. I would never put my child in danger. So again, thank you to people who actually took the time to send me links even though I am in Canada and laws are different. But the others leave a sour taste in my mouth of feeling ganged up on by a rude bully.

Actually what you said was you wanted a FFing carseat for when your daughter outgrows her bucket seat.  So people were trying to tell you that you CANNOT go from a bucket seat to a FFing carseat.  Well, I guess you could if your 2 year old was 22lbs and short, but aside from that, you can't.  You need to go from a bucket seat to a RFing carseat.

And no, no matter how many times you say you can decide who does what on the internet, you can't.  That's just absurd.  I've been flamed on here plenty of times.  But I don't whine about it.  Because I'm a grown up who is secure in myself and my parenting decisions and I don't expect the internet to tell me I'm awesome.


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12-21-2012 at 7:10 AM
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Anyways as pp said the arguement is done so we are all moving on. I thought of something overnight, rear facing makes sense, but what if your child is long and legs don't fit against the seat? This happened to a friend of mine and she was forced to do ff.
 
12-21-2012 at 7:50 AM
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silvie25:
Anyways as pp said the arguement is done so we are all moving on. I thought of something overnight, rear facing makes sense, but what if your child is long and legs don't fit against the seat? This happened to a friend of mine and she was forced to do ff.

They bend their legs. Feet against the seat is not a safety issue, or a comfort issue. Kids are bendy and what looks uncomfortable to the adult eye is not for a child. They can sit with them crossed, hang them over the sides, put them straight up the back of the seat, etc.

Your friend wasn't "forced" to FF because of her child's legs.  


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12-21-2012 at 9:33 AM
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silvie25:
Anyways as pp said the arguement is done so we are all moving on. I thought of something overnight, rear facing makes sense, but what if your child is long and legs don't fit against the seat? This happened to a friend of mine and she was forced to do ff.

Good gracious.  Really? So we're moving on but you just want to throw this in there?  

Good luck OP.  Read up on some of the information provided to by you other posters here.  You are woefully under-informed.


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12-21-2012 at 10:32 AM
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silvie25:
Anyways as pp said the arguement is done so we are all moving on. I thought of something overnight, rear facing makes sense, but what if your child is long and legs don't fit against the seat? This happened to a friend of mine and she was forced to do ff.

Good gracious.  Really? So we're moving on but you just want to throw this in there?  

Good luck OP.  Read up on some of the information provided to by you other posters here.  You are woefully under-informed.


K you need to RELAX and stop attacking me. Leave me the f alone and let me post. If you don't like my posts or questions move on to the next friggin post. I had that question because I was talking to a friend last night about it whose kid was tall and she didn't want her kid smushed so she put it ff. so calm the F down. The arguement of going back and forth was done and I was taking it back to my op. And as pp said, I was looking for a rear facing COMBO seat one that is forward and back facing and that can be broken down to a booster down the road.
 
12-21-2012 at 11:01 AM
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You can just fold their legs. It's actually more comfortable then them just dangling off the front, so some kids like it more.

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12-21-2012 at 8:23 PM
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I'm in Canada.  The minimum to turn them forward facing in my province is one, AND 22 pounds, AND walking unassisted.  Best practice is to keep them rear facing as long as possible.  It's the safest.  We have the Safety First Complete Air, which goes to 40 pounds.  DS is about 26 pounds, so he has quite a ways to go, and then we will forward face him until 65 pounds.

 

In my province, it is also law that all children stay in a 5 point harness seat until a minimum of 40 pounds and then use a booster until they are 4 ft 9 inches or 9 years of age.

 

Your child will be fine sitting in the back alone. 

 

Edited: forgot part of my sentence.  Maybe I'll get some sleep tonight and will be able to form coherent thoughts. 

 


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12-21-2012 at 10:52 PM
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silvie25:
Anyways as pp said the arguement is done so we are all moving on. I thought of something overnight, rear facing makes sense, but what if your child is long and legs don't fit against the seat? This happened to a friend of mine and she was forced to do ff.

My child is in the 95th percentile for height, with extremely long legs, and she will RF as long as she is within the parameters of her convertible seat. It takes no effort at all to fold a child's legs or show them how to dangle them over the sides. 

It's quite obviously a lot easier to mend a broken leg after an accident than a broken neck.

Long legs are not an excuse to not ERF. Not at all.


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12-21-2012 at 10:54 PM
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silvie25:
Anyways as pp said the arguement is done so we are all moving on. I thought of something overnight, rear facing makes sense, but what if your child is long and legs don't fit against the seat? This happened to a friend of mine and she was forced to do ff.

Good gracious.  Really? So we're moving on but you just want to throw this in there?  

Good luck OP.  Read up on some of the information provided to by you other posters here.  You are woefully under-informed.

K you need to RELAX and stop attacking me. Leave me the f alone and let me post. If you don't like my posts or questions move on to the next friggin post. I had that question because I was talking to a friend last night about it whose kid was tall and she didn't want her kid smushed so she put it ff. so calm the F down. The arguement of going back and forth was done and I was taking it back to my op. And as pp said, I was looking for a rear facing COMBO seat one that is forward and back facing and that can be broken down to a booster down the road.

Yeah.

You don't get to dictate who, how and for how long people post on a public forum. If you don't like the discussion, you can take your own advice and leave the conversation. If you continue to post, you will continue to get responses.

And your friend put her kid at risk for internal decapitation because she didn't want her to be "smushed." Probably not the right call.


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12-22-2012 at 3:03 AM
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silvie25:
Anyways as pp said the arguement is done so we are all moving on. I thought of something overnight, rear facing makes sense, but what if your child is long and legs don't fit against the seat? This happened to a friend of mine and she was forced to do ff.

She wasn't forced to do it unless her child doesn't have knees.  Then I might give her a pass.


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12-22-2012 at 10:09 AM
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I'm certainly not trying to dictate who can be on here and I do apologize if it came across that way. What I meant was, it is unfair to be bullied even on a forum because of an opinion you have, or even a question you have that you may not have fully researched yet. There are ways to get your opinion across without belittling somebody and trying to make them feel stupid. Most did nicely and some didn't.
 
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