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12-20-2012 at 12:44 PM
LoveLo2010
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Sleep training... Naps vs night time

For the moms who have done or are doing sleep training did you start with night time or naps? How do you handle naps? Same method?

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12-20-2012 at 12:54 PM
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I've read Ferber's book, Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems, and he recommends starting with nighttime first and then naps.  We're going to be starting next week.

For naps, he says to do the same approach as night time (let them cry for 3 minutes, go in and comfort w/out pick up, let them cry 5 minutes, etc) but if the baby hasn't gone to sleep after 30 minutes, or falls asleep for a short time and wakes up and cries or calls to you, to get the baby up end that nap time.  If the baby ends up falling asleep later, that's fine as long as it's not with the associations you're trying to break (at the breast or bottle or being rocked or whatever).



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12-20-2012 at 2:37 PM
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We sleep trained but not with CIO. We did more a loose use of No Tears method at 3 months since she had already showed her dislike of swaddling so we had her arms out. We did it all at once. I basically didn't let her nurse to sleep anymore. I  would put her in crib awake. However at nap we'd wrap her then read a book before I lay  her down.  At night we skip the book because we already had another routine set: bath some nights, lotion, pjs, feed, wrap, laydown. Honestly my LO made it too easy to really share any difficulties. Within a week she had it. Now pretty much every nap/night she puts herself down with 0-2 trips in for me to soothe her. And those trips in usually just have me "shhh shh shhh" her, or give her her passy. I'm in & out without picking her up in 2 minutes. Overall She's asleep within 10 min. of laying down. 

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12-20-2012 at 2:56 PM
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would you reccomend one training over another?
 
12-20-2012 at 3:46 PM
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I'd start with night time for sure. Naps are way harder for some reason. I didn't read any books or research any methods but I guess I did my own version of CIO. I went into it knowing that babies cry and put up a fight when it comes to something they don't want to do so I just gave him time to work it out and realize when it was time to sleep. If I tried to go in and do "checks" he would get WAY more upset so I didn't do that. Now he sleeps like a champ....unless he's teething :) 

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12-21-2012 at 10:28 AM
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i tried sleep training at night but it didn't work. my LO is 18 weeks old. i read the no-cry sleep method and really wanted that to work but it was SO involved and required way more patience than i had after weeks of no sleep. i resorted to CIO. the first night went AWESOME, i thought i had one of those great kids who it works for right away. i was wrong. each night got progressively worse. i gave it up after 3 nights thinking maybe she just isn't ready for it yet because she was still waking up every 1-2 hrs. but i'm at the end of my rope. and i know it says some babies are stubborn and take a week of it but I couldn't justify doing it for a week only to find out she just isn't ready and putting her through 7 nights of hysterical crying. she literally wakes up 2 min after i put her in her crib. she's up at least 5 times a night and then usually i give up and bring her in bed with me. naps are horrible too. she WILL not go down unless walked/rocked, etc. some people say if they aren't sleeping well to start solids but my pediatrician told us to wait until she's 6 months bc of allergies.  i'm at a total loss.  
 
12-21-2012 at 10:54 AM
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Definitely start with nighttime.  They're more tired at night, plus if they waste an hour fussing/crying, it's really ok because they can make up for it later in the night.  They're not only not as tired for naps, but if they cry for an hour, you'll never get the nap, the whole day's schedule will be thrown off, and then the rest of the day and possibly the night is screwed up.  DS is still working on naps (particularly lengthening them), but I've read that once babies realize they can fall asleep at night on their own, their naps will gradually begin to improve.  Generally, I would agree with this.  Naps are not perfect, and some days aren't even good, but on a whole, they're much better than they were, and all we changed was that we put him down awake, but drowsy at night.  I let him fall asleep for a minute or two in my arms for naps (again, because they're harder), and it seems to be working ok for us. 

By the way, when we sleep trained, DS did not cry for an hour, I just used it above as an example.  Our experience was that it was much less horrible than we feared.  It wasn't exactly pleasant, but DS is like a different baby these days.  He's so much better rested, he's happier, his development is exploding, and now he likes his crib.  It just wasn't nearly as bad as DH and I were anticipating.  Sure, DS cried, but it was protest crying.  We told ourselves this was likely the first of a million times DS will cry because we're not giving him what he wants, and it was ok.  We comforted him frequently, so he never felt abandoned, and we still feed him at night when he's hungry.  Our goal was not to get him to sleep 12 hours at night, but to eliminate the zillion middle of the night wakings for reasons other than hunger. 


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