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11-09-2012 at 12:15 PM
pugli
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EPP cycle cancelled because cycle day 2 estrogen too high!

I had posted yesterday wondering if had gotten enough estrogen priming since my period came early.

Today I went for my baseline.  11 antrals (best I've ever had).  I was at the clinic a long time as my doctor wasn't in and it seemed everyone was confused with my protocol - EPP isn't something they use.

The clinic has just called and told me that my FSH was fine, however my e2 was 175 and that it is too high to start a cycle.  The doctor that is in today (who wasn't really familiar with the reason I am on this protocol - even after I explained the reason) has said even I got eggs they would be too poor quality as a result of the high e2.

So now, I guess I'm back at square 1.  A couple days on the patch and my FSH is fine, but my e2 is too high to cycle.  

I thought that e2 would be higher as a result of the patch, but that would be normal.  

Anyone that has done EPP - what was your e2 like at your baseline (I want to see if mine is really excessively out of whack). 
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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11-09-2012 at 12:23 PM
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I did not have experience, but just wanted to offer (((hugs))) cause that sucks that it has been so confusing for you.
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11-09-2012 at 12:35 PM
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I'm doing an EPP protocol too.  I thought the e2 was usually higher due to the estrogen priming, but I don't have any specific numbers or experience.  I found this one forum post on a similar issue, and people were proceeding with cycles with e2 higher than yours: http://alturl.com/dxocd

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BFP on Cycle #8. Natural M/C at ~8 weeks
IUI #1 and #2 (8/12, 9/12)- 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel = BFNs
IVF #1 (EPP) 13R/10M/9F, 5DT 1-4AA blast, beta #1-148, beta #2-322, 5 frosties!
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11-09-2012 at 12:40 PM
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Thank you for the hugs rrdiva1.

baker916 - thanks for the link.  I'd been looking for something like that.  I'm going to print off a bunch of things like that and bring them in to my follow up appointment that the nurse has just booked for me with my own doctor.

My concern is that the e2 level is to be expected due to the patch and the doctor overseeing things today has cancelled the cycle since he isn't familiar with the protocol and for the normal short/long cycles that they usually use this e2 level would be way too high. 
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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11-09-2012 at 12:42 PM
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What?! That sounds like a normal e2 for EPP.

Here's some old threads I found on it.

http://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/57413962.aspx

http://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67632581.aspx 
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11-09-2012 at 12:44 PM
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pugli:

Thank you for the hugs rrdiva1.

baker916 - thanks for the link.  I'd been looking for something like that.  I'm going to print off a bunch of things like that and bring them in to my follow up appointment that the nurse has just booked for me with my own doctor.

My concern is that the e2 level is to be expected due to the patch and the doctor overseeing things today has cancelled the cycle since he isn't familiar with the protocol and for the normal short/long cycles that they usually use this e2 level would be way too high. 

I would call back and insist they confirm with YOUR RE. Your e2 sounds perfectly normal for EPP.  
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11-09-2012 at 12:47 PM
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My Day 3 E2 for my first IVF (EPP antagonist) was 889 pmol/l.  Are you in Canada or the U.S?  The U.S. measurement is usually pg/ml.  In my case that converts to 242 pg/ml.  Logically E2 is going to be higher in an EPP cycle.  If I were you I would be concerned that your RE is knowledgable enough about the protocol to execute it properly.
TTC #1
Dx = AMA/DOR, hypothyroid, submucosal fibroid, adenomyosis, mild MFI
IUI#1-3 = BFN
IVF #1 (EPP Antagonist); 3R, 2M, 1F; 3dt of one 12-cell embryo = BFN
IVF #2 (EPP MDLF); 6R, 4M, 3F; 3dt of 1-7 cell, 1-8 cell & 1-10 cell = BFP; confirmed C/P @ 4w2d
Genetic carrier screening negative (CF, Fragile X, SMA, Tay Sachs)
Karyotyping, autoimmune & thrombophilia panels all normal
IVF#3 (DE); 13R, 12M, 8F; 5dt of two “excellent quality” blasts = BFP
Beta#1 = 203, Beta #2 = 81, Beta #3 = 17; confirmed C/P @ 5w1d
Two frosties left
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11-09-2012 at 12:47 PM
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When I did an epp cycle with SIRM they didn't even check my estrogen.  They said the number meant nothing when you are taking estrogen.  I was doing E2V injections every two days for about week before AF..  At baseline they were just checking for low fsh and that I didn't already show a dominant follicle.

Was any of your follicles over 10?  If they are all under 10 and you have a great count I would push to go forward.

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Dx MFI, AMA, Endo, AMH .16
Lap 10/09 Removed endometrioma, stage IV endo and adhesions
Lap 2/10 Endometrioma cysts & adhesions returned.
Ivf #1 4/10 Antagonist, ET Cancelled.
IVF #2 2/11 A/ACP+E2V C/P
IVF #3 6/11 Letrozole/Antagonist BFN
IVF #4 11/11 Low stim Antagonist BFN
Lap 3/12 Lap & Selective HSG
Many cycles of Letrozole and LP HCG w/TI and LDN
IVF #5 8/12 Low stim BFN
IUI #1 10/12 BFN
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11-09-2012 at 1:01 PM
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I would definitely argue that they go forward with this cycle, especially given your higher AFC. As DOR, we know all too well that our ovaries do not cooperate consistently and we need to take advantage if there is any indication things could go better this time.
Me (31) DOR/ MH (34) azoo/high DFI TTC#1 since 2009 IVF #1 cancelled dt poor response/ IVF #2 & #3: BFFN/ Natural Surprise BFP, early m/c -endometrial bx & methotrexate administered/ IVF#4:nothing to transfer/ DS IUI#1 BFN/ DS IUI#2 BFN/ IVF#5 (1st w/ DS):another BFFN/ Currently planning on DE and DS cycle Summer 2013. This has to be it- 
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11-09-2012 at 1:14 PM
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When I did EPP they didn't check my estrogen either at the beginning of the cycle-they just looked at the ultrasound to make sure I didn't have any cysts. 

TTC since 5/2010
DX with Diminished Ovarian Reserve
AMH of 1.1 - 7/2011; AMH of .29 7/2012; AMH of .42 8/2012
BFP 9/1/10-M/C confirmed 9/8/10-Methotrexate 10/6/10
IUI #1 (w/clomid)-9/5/11-BFN
IUI #2 (w/clomid)-10/5/11 - BFP
11/1/12-No sac seen; 11/2/11 and 11/9/11-Methotrexate
IVF #1- ER 2/2; ET 2/5; Two 8 cell embryos transfered Beta 2/16 = 5 = BFFN
Surprise BFP - 5/7/12
U/S on 6/8/12 - H/B at 128 BPM; U/S on 6/14/12 @ 9wks-No H/B-D&C on 6/17/12
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IVF 2.0- ER 10/17; ET 10/20
One 12 cell, one 10 cell and one 8 cell embryo transfered
BFP! Beta #1 650; Beta #2 1200; Beta #3 5700
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11-09-2012 at 1:21 PM
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Thank you everyone.  I'm really disappointed now.  I've spoken to my clinic again and they are unable to speak with my doctor today.  No one there is familiar with this protocol.

I advised that everything I'd read online pointed to the fact that this is normal with EPP.  The short version is, I can't go ahead as no one is able to approve it and it is possible my doctor may come back and say I should have been cancelled today and no one is willing to let me go forward in case that happens.

Based on everything, it would appear this cycle is going as planned, but the clinic isn't familiar with it so now I have to wait until next year as trying next month would push us into an estimated ER date around Christmas.

Sophistikitty - I'm in Canada but converted my number to U.S. readings  by dividing by 3.67 since I know most on here are American.  I'm at just over 640 pmol/l so below what you were at, but I'm still cancelled.

The wait time to get into another clinic is so long.  I've been to one other that wouldn't even treat me without donor eggs because of my low AMH.  I went back to my original clinic so I didn't have to wait months and months to get into another one, but at this point, I have to wonder if this will ever work.  I really don't know what to do.

 
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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11-09-2012 at 1:25 PM
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Can I ask what your AMH is?
TTC #1
Dx = AMA/DOR, hypothyroid, submucosal fibroid, adenomyosis, mild MFI
IUI#1-3 = BFN
IVF #1 (EPP Antagonist); 3R, 2M, 1F; 3dt of one 12-cell embryo = BFN
IVF #2 (EPP MDLF); 6R, 4M, 3F; 3dt of 1-7 cell, 1-8 cell & 1-10 cell = BFP; confirmed C/P @ 4w2d
Genetic carrier screening negative (CF, Fragile X, SMA, Tay Sachs)
Karyotyping, autoimmune & thrombophilia panels all normal
IVF#3 (DE); 13R, 12M, 8F; 5dt of two “excellent quality” blasts = BFP
Beta#1 = 203, Beta #2 = 81, Beta #3 = 17; confirmed C/P @ 5w1d
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11-09-2012 at 1:28 PM
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I really feel for you.  I don’t know what I would do if I was in your position.  I guess there is not much you can do unless your doctor comes back.  SO FRUSTRATING!!!!!
TTC #1
Dx = AMA/DOR, hypothyroid, submucosal fibroid, adenomyosis, mild MFI
IUI#1-3 = BFN
IVF #1 (EPP Antagonist); 3R, 2M, 1F; 3dt of one 12-cell embryo = BFN
IVF #2 (EPP MDLF); 6R, 4M, 3F; 3dt of 1-7 cell, 1-8 cell & 1-10 cell = BFP; confirmed C/P @ 4w2d
Genetic carrier screening negative (CF, Fragile X, SMA, Tay Sachs)
Karyotyping, autoimmune & thrombophilia panels all normal
IVF#3 (DE); 13R, 12M, 8F; 5dt of two “excellent quality” blasts = BFP
Beta#1 = 203, Beta #2 = 81, Beta #3 = 17; confirmed C/P @ 5w1d
Two frosties left
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11-09-2012 at 1:30 PM
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My AMH is 0.37 on the U.S. scale or 2.64 on the Canadian scale.  

Definitely very low...which is why it is even more depressing to wait until January.  

Who knows if this would have been the month, but unfortunately I don't have time for a cancellation if the cycle is on track...really depressing. 
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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11-09-2012 at 1:38 PM
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Your AMH is indeed low but I have seen other ladies here get pregnant with a worse number.  I feel for you because I completely understand that time is of the essence for you but at the same time you really want to be sure you are getting the best care.  If I were you I really would try to get a least one, maybe even two, second opinions. 


I am so sorry you are going through this.
TTC #1
Dx = AMA/DOR, hypothyroid, submucosal fibroid, adenomyosis, mild MFI
IUI#1-3 = BFN
IVF #1 (EPP Antagonist); 3R, 2M, 1F; 3dt of one 12-cell embryo = BFN
IVF #2 (EPP MDLF); 6R, 4M, 3F; 3dt of 1-7 cell, 1-8 cell & 1-10 cell = BFP; confirmed C/P @ 4w2d
Genetic carrier screening negative (CF, Fragile X, SMA, Tay Sachs)
Karyotyping, autoimmune & thrombophilia panels all normal
IVF#3 (DE); 13R, 12M, 8F; 5dt of two “excellent quality” blasts = BFP
Beta#1 = 203, Beta #2 = 81, Beta #3 = 17; confirmed C/P @ 5w1d
Two frosties left
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11-09-2012 at 1:47 PM
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Thank you Sophistikitty.  I have a referral in to one other clinic but have been waiting and waiting.  I did go to see another doctor who has some (if not the) best success rates in the area, but as soon as he saw my AMH number, he immediately told me donor eggs were really my only option and wanted to refer me to either Spain or CCRM for donor eggs.  I think by avoiding IVF with patients with very low chances of success (me), it keeps his success rates higher.  He told me with multiple cycles, my chances of success are less than 5%.

Thank you for the support.  I've got a follow up booked with my RE, but since I don't see my RE at each monitoring appointment I don't know if I can go forward with this protocol at this clinic since this month probably shouldn't have been cancelled.

 

 
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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11-09-2012 at 1:48 PM
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I don't have advice, but just want to say I am so sorry your cycle has been cancelled.

 
TTC since May 2010
2/2011 - Initial consultation with RE
4/2011 - DX: IF related to anovulation + MFI
8/2011-11/2011 3 failed IUIs
IVF#1 Jan/Feb 2012-Long Lupron/6ER/6M/3F/0 to transfer
Switched to new RE
IVF#2 April 2012-First time ever BFP!
confirmed blighted ovum d/t tetraploidy @ 7w2d; D&C @ 9w (6/11/12)
IVF #3 October 2012 ER 10/28 9R/8M/3F ET 10/31 2 8 cell Embies
BFP! Beta#1(12dp3dt)=158 Beta#2(14dp3dt)=265 Beta#3(19dp3dt)=1905
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11-09-2012 at 2:15 PM
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pugli:

Thank you everyone.  I'm really disappointed now.  I've spoken to my clinic again and they are unable to speak with my doctor today.  No one there is familiar with this protocol.

Will your RE be availabe tomorrow to talk with?  I just ask because I have been doing EPP the last three months and my RE doesn't start my meds until cycle day 5-6.  The estrogen is so suppressing that he likes my natural fsh to take over before adding in the stims.  Is it possible it might not be to late?
TTC #1 since 9/07
Dx MFI, AMA, Endo, AMH .16
Lap 10/09 Removed endometrioma, stage IV endo and adhesions
Lap 2/10 Endometrioma cysts & adhesions returned.
Ivf #1 4/10 Antagonist, ET Cancelled.
IVF #2 2/11 A/ACP+E2V C/P
IVF #3 6/11 Letrozole/Antagonist BFN
IVF #4 11/11 Low stim Antagonist BFN
Lap 3/12 Lap & Selective HSG
Many cycles of Letrozole and LP HCG w/TI and LDN
IVF #5 8/12 Low stim BFN
IUI #1 10/12 BFN
IVF #6 3/13 EPP low stim w/HGH
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11-09-2012 at 2:18 PM
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Thank you for the thoughts lisagab26.

Trippleb - unfortunately, he's apparently unreachable until Monday.  The protocol that has been put together had me starting day 2, so I'm thinking Monday would likely be too late. 
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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11-09-2012 at 2:27 PM
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Trippleb:
pugli:

Thank you everyone.  I'm really disappointed now.  I've spoken to my clinic again and they are unable to speak with my doctor today.  No one there is familiar with this protocol.

Will your RE be availabe tomorrow to talk with?  I just ask because I have been doing EPP the last three months and my RE doesn't start my meds until cycle day 5-6.  The estrogen is so suppressing that he likes my natural fsh to take over before adding in the stims.  Is it possible it might not be to late?

This is a good suggestion...  From everything I have heard I have my doubts that he would listen though :( 
TTC #1
Dx = AMA/DOR, hypothyroid, submucosal fibroid, adenomyosis, mild MFI
IUI#1-3 = BFN
IVF #1 (EPP Antagonist); 3R, 2M, 1F; 3dt of one 12-cell embryo = BFN
IVF #2 (EPP MDLF); 6R, 4M, 3F; 3dt of 1-7 cell, 1-8 cell & 1-10 cell = BFP; confirmed C/P @ 4w2d
Genetic carrier screening negative (CF, Fragile X, SMA, Tay Sachs)
Karyotyping, autoimmune & thrombophilia panels all normal
IVF#3 (DE); 13R, 12M, 8F; 5dt of two “excellent quality” blasts = BFP
Beta#1 = 203, Beta #2 = 81, Beta #3 = 17; confirmed C/P @ 5w1d
Two frosties left
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11-09-2012 at 2:34 PM
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The thing is that my RE is absolutely fabulous.  He is always open and willing to listen and works with me.  He put together the detailed EPP protocol for me, but no one else at the clinic is at all familiar with it which has led to today's problems.

The problem is the clinic.  For the monitoring and other procedures, you see the doctor on duty that day.  Although my protocol is put together by my doctor, I may see him once or not at all during monitoring. Due to my high FSH and other issues, my doctor was consulted by the nurses during my last cycle instead of just dealing with the doc of the day.  Unfortunately he is away right now.

If my doctor had been in today, I'm pretty certain things would have turned out differently.  I didn't like the rotational system, but until today didn't realize just how detrimental it would be to my treatment.
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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11-09-2012 at 2:53 PM
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I'm sorry ... That is so frustrating. I'd be raising hell! Can't they call your RE in his cell, or check with an acquaintance in another practice who does the protocol, or look it up in a treatise or something!?
Me: 39. DH: 41. TTC since 2009.
FSH: 9.5 at highest. AMH (11/2011): 0.9. AFC: 10ish. HSG: Normal. SA: Normal.
July 2011 - Feb. 2012: 2 Clomid/TI cycles; 3 injectables/IUI cycles. Good response but BFNs.
Dec. 2011: Laparoscopy (clear) + hysteroscopy to remove uterine polyp.

April 2012: IVF #1: FSH 9.2, AFC 7-8. Antagonist protocol.
Started stims (300iu Gonal-F, 150iu Menopur) 3/28.
Added ganirelix 4/1. Trigger 4/5 (7 follies). ER 4/7: 7R, 0M, 0F. :-(

Nov. 2012: IVF #2: Long Lupron protocol.
Started Lupron 10/27. AFC 10+. Started stims (300iu Follistim, 150iu Menopur) 11/8.
Trigger 11/18 (7 follies). ER 11/20: 9R, 1M, 1F. 3dt of my one 6-cell embie on 11/23: BFN.

Dec. 2012: Hail Mary IUI cycle with leftover IVF meds: BFN.

Feb. 2013: IVF #3: Estrogen priming protocol.
Pre-AF: estro patch + ganirelix. AFC 8-10. Started stims (450 Follistim, 150 Menopur) 1/28.
Added ganirelix 2/4. Combined Lupron/HCG trigger 2/10 (6-ish follies).
ET 2/12: 6R, 1M, 1F w/rescue ICSI. My embie didn't make it. :-(

July 2013: DE IVF #1

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11-09-2012 at 3:03 PM
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Thanks brooklynesque.  Believe me, I'm less than thrilled to say the least.  From what I've been told, they did try to contact my RE but he is away/vacationing.  The nurse apparently did talk to another doctor.  One said the high estrogen would mean poor egg quality if we got any.  The other said we're just trading high FSH for high estrogen and neither are good.

I don't know what my own RE will say.  I will bring all the info I can find online that shows my estrogen level is to be expected with this protocol.

I'm just trying to find something official saying this as the nurse said google isn't a good source when I said I'd found info online that said these levels are to be expected.  I know my 'sources' can be trusted, but I also know it would hold more weight when I bring it in if it is an official study. 
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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brooklynesque:
I'd be raising hell! Can't they call your RE in his cell, or check with an acquaintance in another practice who does the protocol, or look it up in a treatise or something!?

I agree there is absolutely no excuse for them not to be able to reach him by cell, email etc. 

 
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Dx = AMA/DOR, hypothyroid, submucosal fibroid, adenomyosis, mild MFI
IUI#1-3 = BFN
IVF #1 (EPP Antagonist); 3R, 2M, 1F; 3dt of one 12-cell embryo = BFN
IVF #2 (EPP MDLF); 6R, 4M, 3F; 3dt of 1-7 cell, 1-8 cell & 1-10 cell = BFP; confirmed C/P @ 4w2d
Genetic carrier screening negative (CF, Fragile X, SMA, Tay Sachs)
Karyotyping, autoimmune & thrombophilia panels all normal
IVF#3 (DE); 13R, 12M, 8F; 5dt of two “excellent quality” blasts = BFP
Beta#1 = 203, Beta #2 = 81, Beta #3 = 17; confirmed C/P @ 5w1d
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pugli:

Thanks brooklynesque.  Believe me, I'm less than thrilled to say the least.  From what I've been told, they did try to contact my RE but he is away/vacationing.  The nurse apparently did talk to another doctor.  One said the high estrogen would mean poor egg quality if we got any.  The other said we're just trading high FSH for high estrogen and neither are good.

I don't know what my own RE will say.  I will bring all the info I can find online that shows my estrogen level is to be expected with this protocol.

I'm just trying to find something official saying this as the nurse said google isn't a good source when I said I'd found info online that said these levels are to be expected.  I know my 'sources' can be trusted, but I also know it would hold more weight when I bring it in if it is an official study. 

I'm looking for you sweetie.  I'll let you know if I find anything. 
TTC #1
Dx = AMA/DOR, hypothyroid, submucosal fibroid, adenomyosis, mild MFI
IUI#1-3 = BFN
IVF #1 (EPP Antagonist); 3R, 2M, 1F; 3dt of one 12-cell embryo = BFN
IVF #2 (EPP MDLF); 6R, 4M, 3F; 3dt of 1-7 cell, 1-8 cell & 1-10 cell = BFP; confirmed C/P @ 4w2d
Genetic carrier screening negative (CF, Fragile X, SMA, Tay Sachs)
Karyotyping, autoimmune & thrombophilia panels all normal
IVF#3 (DE); 13R, 12M, 8F; 5dt of two “excellent quality” blasts = BFP
Beta#1 = 203, Beta #2 = 81, Beta #3 = 17; confirmed C/P @ 5w1d
Two frosties left
*PAIF/SAIF welcome*  
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Thanks Sophistikitty. 

I'll be sure to update as to what my RE says after my follow up appointment with him.  It isn't for a little over a week, but no rush now.
Me: 36 DH: 38 Diminished Ovarian Reserve Low AMH Borderline/High FSH TTC for 3 years IUIs = BFN IVF#1 - September 2012 (hopefully) Short cycle with natural start = converted to IUI  
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