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11-12-2012 at 10:38 PM
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Our SA results were good but maybe bad?!

So DH got his results back, "our" count is 26 m/ml, 26 morphology and motility was 40...at first glance it looked good BUT...his motility grading is 2!  Which means the boys tails wag but they don't move.....anyone else have this issue?  What solutions were suggested?  We have not had a chance to talk to our doc...my husbands regular doc actually pulled the records for him since they are all the same health system but could not give more detail....I am super impatient, I know....but hoping for some insight!

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11-12-2012 at 11:14 PM
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No experience but wanted to say good luck!!

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11-12-2012 at 11:16 PM
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Is there a reason why your DH is having a SA done if you had a baby 14 months ago?

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11-13-2012 at 12:09 AM
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2 means most are slower moving or sluggish, not that they wag but don't move.

I side eye a doctor giving you results they aren't qualified to read. 

 
11-13-2012 at 7:23 AM
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Shayliz:

I side eye a doctor giving you results they aren't qualified to read. 

I would too.... but this is increasingly the norm. Many places have patient portals where you can see the lab results as soon as they become available. It's their body and technically their right. 

OP- wait to talk to your doctor. Step away from google and TTC. 



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11-13-2012 at 7:34 AM
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I don't know much about it but wanted to wish you good luck also!!

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11-13-2012 at 7:35 AM
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I know you guys are right...I should not even worry about it until we talk to the doctor...cause google is what is making me nervous....I will put the computer down.  Thank you for clarifying what grade 2 is!

For the PP that asked, we had an SA because we have been TTC for 9 months with no success, just taking precautionary tests in the event that we hit 12 months with no success.  That way we already have some of the work done for an RE.


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11-13-2012 at 7:46 AM
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smscartozzi:

I know you guys are right...I should not even worry about it until we talk to the doctor...cause google is what is making me nervous....I will put the computer down.  Thank you for clarifying what grade 2 is!

For the PP that asked, we had an SA because we have been TTC for 9 months with no success, just taking precautionary tests in the event that we hit 12 months with no success.  That way we already have some of the work done for an RE.

Or in other words, you're being impatient.


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11-13-2012 at 7:58 AM
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smscartozzi:

I know you guys are right...I should not even worry about it until we talk to the doctor...cause google is what is making me nervous....I will put the computer down.  Thank you for clarifying what grade 2 is!

For the PP that asked, we had an SA because we have been TTC for 9 months with no success, just taking precautionary tests in the event that we hit 12 months with no success.  That way we already have some of the work done for an RE.

Or in other words, you're being impatient.

What KDG  said. You haven't been TTC for over a year AND you had a child 14 months ago.  Quit borrowing trouble. 


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11-13-2012 at 8:07 AM
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KdgTeacher:
smscartozzi:

I know you guys are right...I should not even worry about it until we talk to the doctor...cause google is what is making me nervous....I will put the computer down.  Thank you for clarifying what grade 2 is!

For the PP that asked, we had an SA because we have been TTC for 9 months with no success, just taking precautionary tests in the event that we hit 12 months with no success.  That way we already have some of the work done for an RE.

Or in other words, you're being impatient.

I think this is an unfair assumption.  Do we know how long it took for OP to conceive #1.  Do we know her age? Do we know how long it would take for a referral to an RE? I see nothing wrong with being proactive about your health.

Good luck OP.  I hope you get answers about the SA soon.

 





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11-13-2012 at 8:08 AM
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Oh, totally don't deny that I am impatient.  There is more to it then just time, my husband battled cancer for 10 years and had radiation and chemotherapy numerous times so the viability of his sperm was a concern.  But yes we did have a son so we know he had at least one good one.

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11-13-2012 at 8:17 AM
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I don't have experience, but wishing you the best and that you get the answers you need. 

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11-13-2012 at 8:27 AM
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AlexKate45:

I think this is an unfair assumption.  Do we know how long it took for OP to conceive #1.  Do we know her age? Do we know how long it would take for a referral to an RE? I see nothing wrong with being proactive about your health.

Good luck OP.  I hope you get answers about the SA soon. 

Agreed, especially the part about being proactive. A SA is a non-invasive test, and if they can afford it, who is it hurting to have it done? It's not like she ran out to have it done after their first month. Not every doctor follows the 1 year rule. 


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11-13-2012 at 8:36 AM
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ScarletOflaherty:
AlexKate45:

I think this is an unfair assumption.  Do we know how long it took for OP to conceive #1.  Do we know her age? Do we know how long it would take for a referral to an RE? I see nothing wrong with being proactive about your health.

Good luck OP.  I hope you get answers about the SA soon. 

Agreed, especially the part about being proactive. A SA is a non-invasive test, and if they can afford it, who is it hurting to have it done? It's not like she ran out to have it done after their first month. Not every doctor follows the 1 year rule. 

Except for the fact that she wasted her money, her insurance's money and the time to get the test done. If you do eventually see an RE, they're more than likely going to ask for a repeat SA. You just wasted your time and your doctor's time by doing this test.


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11-13-2012 at 8:47 AM
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AlexKate45:

I think this is an unfair assumption.  Do we know how long it took for OP to conceive #1.  Do we know her age? Do we know how long it would take for a referral to an RE? I see nothing wrong with being proactive about your health.

Good luck OP.  I hope you get answers about the SA soon. 

Agreed, especially the part about being proactive. A SA is a non-invasive test, and if they can afford it, who is it hurting to have it done? It's not like she ran out to have it done after their first month. Not every doctor follows the 1 year rule. 

Except for the fact that she wasted her money, her insurance's money and the time to get the test done. If you do eventually see an RE, they're more than likely going to ask for a repeat SA. You just wasted your time and your doctor's time by doing this test.

Well we may have wasted our time...however we did not ask for the test, our doctor sent him for it.  And we did not waste our money, it was covered by insurance because it was recommended by the doctor.  And like I said prior....my husband is just glad to know he even has sperm considering his medical history...and I guess his age too, although he is not that old.


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11-13-2012 at 8:51 AM
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smscartozzi:
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AlexKate45:

I think this is an unfair assumption.  Do we know how long it took for OP to conceive #1.  Do we know her age? Do we know how long it would take for a referral to an RE? I see nothing wrong with being proactive about your health.

Good luck OP.  I hope you get answers about the SA soon. 

Agreed, especially the part about being proactive. A SA is a non-invasive test, and if they can afford it, who is it hurting to have it done? It's not like she ran out to have it done after their first month. Not every doctor follows the 1 year rule. 

Except for the fact that she wasted her money, her insurance's money and the time to get the test done. If you do eventually see an RE, they're more than likely going to ask for a repeat SA. You just wasted your time and your doctor's time by doing this test.

Well we may have wasted our time...however we did not ask for the test, our doctor sent him for it.  And we did not waste our money, it was covered by insurance because it was recommended by the doctor.  And like I said prior....my husband is just glad to know he even has sperm considering his medical history...and I guess his age too, although he is not that old.

SMS- I'm sorry that your husband went through this. Good luck.


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11-13-2012 at 11:34 AM
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smscartozzi:
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ScarletOflaherty:
AlexKate45:

I think this is an unfair assumption.  Do we know how long it took for OP to conceive #1.  Do we know her age? Do we know how long it would take for a referral to an RE? I see nothing wrong with being proactive about your health.

Good luck OP.  I hope you get answers about the SA soon. 

Agreed, especially the part about being proactive. A SA is a non-invasive test, and if they can afford it, who is it hurting to have it done? It's not like she ran out to have it done after their first month. Not every doctor follows the 1 year rule. 

Except for the fact that she wasted her money, her insurance's money and the time to get the test done. If you do eventually see an RE, they're more than likely going to ask for a repeat SA. You just wasted your time and your doctor's time by doing this test.

Well we may have wasted our time...however we did not ask for the test, our doctor sent him for it.  And we did not waste our money, it was covered by insurance because it was recommended by the doctor.  And like I said prior....my husband is just glad to know he even has sperm considering his medical history...and I guess his age too, although he is not that old.

And I'm sure my doc would order an EKG and all sorts of other stuff if I said my chest hurt.  That doesn't mean I need it.  And I find it quite side-eye worthy that a doctor would order a test without the patient brining it up somehow first. 

In a sense you did waste money--since your insurance covered a test that was not needed.

As to the "assumption" I made, OP said herself she was impatient.  Impatient =/= IF or TTTC. 


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11-13-2012 at 2:03 PM
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ScarletOflaherty:
AlexKate45:

I think this is an unfair assumption.  Do we know how long it took for OP to conceive #1.  Do we know her age? Do we know how long it would take for a referral to an RE? I see nothing wrong with being proactive about your health.

Good luck OP.  I hope you get answers about the SA soon. 

Agreed, especially the part about being proactive. A SA is a non-invasive test, and if they can afford it, who is it hurting to have it done? It's not like she ran out to have it done after their first month. Not every doctor follows the 1 year rule. 

Exactly. My doctor told me to come back in 6 months. Not all doctors follow the 1 year rule and if OP has concerns/impatient, then she should do whatever she and her doctor agree to do. What's the problem with that?  


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11-13-2012 at 2:17 PM
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AlexKate45:

I think this is an unfair assumption.  Do we know how long it took for OP to conceive #1.  Do we know her age? Do we know how long it would take for a referral to an RE? I see nothing wrong with being proactive about your health.

Good luck OP.  I hope you get answers about the SA soon. 

Agreed, especially the part about being proactive. A SA is a non-invasive test, and if they can afford it, who is it hurting to have it done? It's not like she ran out to have it done after their first month. Not every doctor follows the 1 year rule. 

Except for the fact that she wasted her money, her insurance's money and the time to get the test done. If you do eventually see an RE, they're more than likely going to ask for a repeat SA. You just wasted your time and your doctor's time by doing this test.

Well we may have wasted our time...however we did not ask for the test, our doctor sent him for it.  And we did not waste our money, it was covered by insurance because it was recommended by the doctor.  And like I said prior....my husband is just glad to know he even has sperm considering his medical history...and I guess his age too, although he is not that old.


Except that every test raises costs for the insurance company, so everyone on your plan pays a little bit more. Yes, some doctors follow different guidelines but the accepted standard is a year barring other issues. Considering you have a 14 month old the history is probably not a reason to jump ahead. Lastly, it can take some time for cycles to regulate after you have a baby. 


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11-13-2012 at 2:34 PM
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So I agree with what everyone is saying....let me just clarify for everyone a little.  I  got my period right away after having DS because I sucked at breastfeeding and have had pretty regular cycles for a year now.  Since his birth we were never TTA...but I started OPK and charting the past 9 months.  I happened to have my annual 2 weeks ago, doc asked how the baby was and if we were going to have more, I said yes, and explained the trying, he offered the SA as an option for us....it was not solicited.  We took the opportunity because.....the day I found out I was prego the first time my husband cried for hours because he thought he was infertile....since we were offered the chance to see how fertile he is we took it.  I see nothing wrong with that.  I understand that it cost the insurance company money, but I have been healthy my whole life....its about time I got something for my money, how about that....(side note, I am not going to go crash my car now too...I know).  Also, I am in my mid 30's...DH is in his mid 40's....our old asses don't have a ton of time to spare, our baby making days are limited...and/or I will not have the energy at 45 to be pushing out babies....maybe a little selfish, I know...

I know we had the test done a few months early........I was not asking about our timing...but rather if anyone else had a grade 2 and what this meant....since my husbands stupid primary shared the lab results while also sharing his cholesterol lab results....thats all:)  Sorry for jumping the gun...I didn't realize it was such a bad idea.


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11-13-2012 at 2:37 PM
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Curlylocks...I forgot to add...our only added concern was my husbands radiation and chemotherapy from when he had cancer and if it was affecting fertility...I have no health issues that are an added concern....

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11-13-2012 at 3:35 PM
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smscartozzi:
Curlylocks...I forgot to add...our only added concern was my husbands radiation and chemotherapy from when he had cancer and if it was affecting fertility...I have no health issues that are an added concern....

OK, honest question.  Why is this a concern now? TTC #2?  Was all chemo/radiation done between BFP #1 and now?


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11-13-2012 at 8:28 PM
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smscartozzi:
Curlylocks...I forgot to add...our only added concern was my husbands radiation and chemotherapy from when he had cancer and if it was affecting fertility...I have no health issues that are an added concern....

OK, honest question.  Why is this a concern now? TTC #2?  Was all chemo/radiation done between BFP #1 and now?

No, the radiation was not between then and now.  However, he had to have his adrenal glands removed because of tumors, they play a large part in the production of hormones, including testosterone...which is also an issue.  Our DS was a total accident, we were actually trying to not conceive(I did not understand fertility then as I do now)....so in all honesty we thought, sh!t we must be fertile as hell...and as the months passed and we did not conceive we thought maybe our son was an honest to god miracle and that he did have a fertility problem after all.  So DH was still worried about his "men".  I was not trying to jump the gun it was coincidence that I had my annual at 9 months TTC, that is all....so instead of going back in 3 months we just took the offer then to rule out male fertility issues.  My doctor also knows about the cancer bit because we were concerned our son would also be at risk for it.  He had a neuroblastoma which is very common in children and infants.  My husband spent the better part of 6mo-10yo in our childrens hosipital here.  And yes I am impatient...but aren't we all every 2WW and waiting to O, while we are hoping we are making babies...patience/impatience is part of the game, I know this...I just happen to have no patience in life, period...and we were offered the opportunity to ease some of that impatience.  Honest to god, this was an innocent post and I was hoping someone would have a better understanding of the grade 2 issue since his doc left us hanging, thats all!  Sorry that was long winded....


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11-13-2012 at 8:45 PM
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I really don't see the issue here. Maybe some people here are just projecting their own issues? She just said she's in her mid-30s too. Generally that pushes up the testing to 6mos after no success, does it not?

 

Good luck with the results OP. I hope you don't have to wait too long to talk to the doctor to make sense of it for you.


 
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And I'm sure my doc would order an EKG and all sorts of other stuff if I said my chest hurt.nbsp; That doesn't mean I need it.nbsp; And I find it quite sideeye worthy that a doctor would order a test without the patient brining it up somehow first.nbsp;
In a sense you did waste moneysince your insurance covered a test that was not needed.
As to the "assumption" I made, OP said herself she was impatient.nbsp; Impatient =/= IF or TTTC.nbsp;


If you went to the doctor's office for chest pains, I would say ordering an EKG and blood work is warranted. If they come back normal that doesn't mean you didn't NEED IT , it just mean everything is within the normal limits and your chest pains are not cardiac in nature but you needed an EKG to know that!

Edited: quoting KDG from mobile site
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