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11-13-2012 at 6:44 PM
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I was just in discussion with someone and he was so certain that most everyone in Canada hated your Prime minister.... is this true?? My thought.... you have not had a housing/economy fall, must be doing something right.

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11-13-2012 at 6:52 PM
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Ha ha!
Yeah, I hate him. But I'm very liberal.
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11-13-2012 at 6:56 PM
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I've been hearing a lot of crappy things lately about Harper but I'm doing a very poor job on keeping myself updated on it all so I don't really feel like I can have a valid opinion on it. We recently cut our cable to save money so I don't watch the news near as much as I should. I keep meaning to watch the news online to keep myself updated but somehow I always manage to find myself here instead. Oops!!

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11-13-2012 at 6:56 PM
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I did not and would not vote for him or his party, we simply do not share many ideals. 

Hate?  Ehn.  I guess you can always say that they're doing something right if we're not as bad as ____ or we're doing ______ more effectively.  Grass is always greener, maybe? 

 

11-13-2012 at 6:59 PM
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IMO Harper is a dumb. I don't like him, I don't like his politics, and I don't like his party but like PP I'm very liberal.

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I voted for him.  (And I know I'm not the only one who did).  I think he's doing an all right job.  Let's be honest, no matter who is running the country/province/whatever, there will be haters.  That's the beauty of it, right?

 
11-13-2012 at 7:49 PM
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I'm pretty out-there liberal but I A) quite actively dislike Michael Ignatieff and B) don't think the NDP have what it takes to pull Canada through this global economic downturn in any positive way. So I voted for Harper. I'm rather ambivalent towards him, don't like or dislike him, but I can appreciate that even though he's a conservative, he's not interested in turning back any laws around same sex marriage, abortion, etc. and has actually ended the highly ineffective money sinkhole that was the long gun registry. And ultimately, getting through these tough economic times is pretty much the most important consideration right now, and I think Harper is best equipped to do that. 

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11-13-2012 at 7:57 PM
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gscoville:
I'm pretty out-there liberal but I A) quite actively dislike Michael Ignatieff and B) don't think the NDP have what it takes to pull Canada through this global economic downturn in any positive way. So I voted for Harper. I'm rather ambivalent towards him, don't like or dislike him, but I can appreciate that even though he's a conservative, he's not interested in turning back any laws around same sex marriage, abortion, etc. and has actually ended the highly ineffective money sinkhole that was the long gun registry. And ultimately, getting through these tough economic times is pretty much the most important consideration right now, and I think Harper is best equipped to do that. 

We have the exact same view point on Harper. I seriously could have typed this myself. 


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11-13-2012 at 8:27 PM
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gscoville:
I'm pretty out-there liberal but I A) quite actively dislike Michael Ignatieff and B) don't think the NDP have what it takes to pull Canada through this global economic downturn in any positive way. So I voted for Harper. I'm rather ambivalent towards him, don't like or dislike him, but I can appreciate that even though he's a conservative, he's not interested in turning back any laws around same sex marriage, abortion, etc. and has actually ended the highly ineffective money sinkhole that was the long gun registry. And ultimately, getting through these tough economic times is pretty much the most important consideration right now, and I think Harper is best equipped to do that. 

I also agree with a lot of this, though I did not actually vote for Harper. I don't really like any of our leaders right now, both federal and provincial (I'm in Ontario), in all honesty.

I disagree with most of what Harper stands for and the way he has gone about doing many things. That said, he is an extremely intelligent person and I do give him credit for getting us through these last rough economic years.

11-13-2012 at 8:34 PM
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spacepotatoes:

I also agree with a lot of this, though I did not actually vote for Harper. I don't really like any of our leaders right now, both federal and provincial (I'm in Ontario), in all honesty.

I disagree with most of what Harper stands for and the way he has gone about doing many things. That said, he is an extremely intelligent person and I do give him credit for getting us through these last rough economic years.

Yeah, I'm not terribly impressed with our leaders either, it always feels like we have to vote for the best of the worst or least of all evils.  


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11-13-2012 at 8:39 PM
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gscoville:
I'm pretty outthere liberal but I A quite actively dislike Michael Ignatieff and B don't think the NDP have what it takes to pull Canada through this global economic downturn in any positive way. So I voted for Harper. I'm rather ambivalent towards him, don't like or dislike him, but I can appreciate that even though he's a conservative, he's not interested in turning back any laws around same sex marriage, abortion, etc. and has actually ended the highly ineffective money sinkhole that was the long gun registry. And ultimately, getting through these tough economic times is pretty much the most important consideration right now, and I think Harper is best equipped to do that.nbsp;
this is me too. I think hate is a pretty strong word for someone you don't personally know. I actually haven't heard that much anti Harper talk but that may be bc I'm in the West, and he's from here.

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11-13-2012 at 10:36 PM
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I'm a bad Canadian and don't pay nearly enough to our politics, after being glued to the American presidential election I vowed to myself that I was going to pay a lot more attention when the next election comes around... in general I have much more liberal views but I think Canadian conservatives aren't AS conservative/religious!? as in the states?

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11-13-2012 at 11:25 PM
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gscoville:
I'm pretty out-there liberal but I A) quite actively dislike Michael Ignatieff and B) don't think the NDP have what it takes to pull Canada through this global economic downturn in any positive way. So I voted for Harper. I'm rather ambivalent towards him, don't like or dislike him, but I can appreciate that even though he's a conservative, he's not interested in turning back any laws around same sex marriage, abortion, etc. and has actually ended the highly ineffective money sinkhole that was the long gun registry. And ultimately, getting through these tough economic times is pretty much the most important consideration right now, and I think Harper is best equipped to do that. 

 i agree with most of this, but could never bring myself to vote for Harper. I could never get behind Conservative party views on supporting both sports and the arts personally.

 I think a major difference between USA political figures tho' and Canadian ones is how our system works within the House of Commons. I think any particular party leader has much more limits to his/her power than a USA president.  (Which IMO in the case of Harper is a good thing). 


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11-13-2012 at 11:38 PM
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I really dislike Harper, as do most people in my social circle, but I am very liberal. I was totally behind the NDP when Jack Layton was alive, but unfortunately, I do not have confidence in their leadership now. 

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11-14-2012 at 12:30 AM
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Dgaroo:

gscoville:
I'm pretty out-there liberal but I A) quite actively dislike Michael Ignatieff and B) don't think the NDP have what it takes to pull Canada through this global economic downturn in any positive way. So I voted for Harper. I'm rather ambivalent towards him, don't like or dislike him, but I can appreciate that even though he's a conservative, he's not interested in turning back any laws around same sex marriage, abortion, etc. and has actually ended the highly ineffective money sinkhole that was the long gun registry. And ultimately, getting through these tough economic times is pretty much the most important consideration right now, and I think Harper is best equipped to do that. 

 i agree with most of this, but could never bring myself to vote for Harper. I could never get behind Conservative party views on supporting both sports and the arts personally.

 I think a major difference between USA political figures tho' and Canadian ones is how our system works within the House of Commons. I think any particular party leader has much more limits to his/her power than a USA president.  (Which IMO in the case of Harper is a good thing). 

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11-14-2012 at 5:57 AM
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gscoville:
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I also agree with a lot of this, though I did not actually vote for Harper. I don't really like any of our leaders right now, both federal and provincial (I'm in Ontario), in all honesty.

I disagree with most of what Harper stands for and the way he has gone about doing many things. That said, he is an extremely intelligent person and I do give him credit for getting us through these last rough economic years.

Yeah, I'm not terribly impressed with our leaders either, it always feels like we have to vote for the best of the worst or least of all evils.  

This. Our conservatives are not as right-winged thinking as the US. So I don't find the choice between liberals and conservatives to be all that different. The liberals need to find a good leader.


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11-14-2012 at 7:53 AM
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gscoville:
I'm pretty out-there liberal but I A) quite actively dislike Michael Ignatieff and B) don't think the NDP have what it takes to pull Canada through this global economic downturn in any positive way. So I voted for Harper. I'm rather ambivalent towards him, don't like or dislike him, but I can appreciate that even though he's a conservative, he's not interested in turning back any laws around same sex marriage, abortion, etc. and has actually ended the highly ineffective money sinkhole that was the long gun registry. And ultimately, getting through these tough economic times is pretty much the most important consideration right now, and I think Harper is best equipped to do that. 

I also agree with a lot of this, though I did not actually vote for Harper. I don't really like any of our leaders right now, both federal and provincial (I'm in Ontario), in all honesty.

I disagree with most of what Harper stands for and the way he has gone about doing many things. That said, he is an extremely intelligent person and I do give him credit for getting us through these last rough economic years.

I said I wouldn't talk politics and here I am this morning!  I would argue (in a very polite Canadian way) that it was Paul Martin as Finance Minister, who set Canada up to weather the financial downturn.  Paul created a nice pillow when things were going well.  Basically the opposite of what happened to USA/Obama. 

Just out of curiosity, what do my fellow Canucks thing of Justin Trudeau? I'm liberal, but I'm just not sure about him....





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11-14-2012 at 8:02 AM
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Nope - I don't hate him at all.  There is a general sense in Canada that he is too conservative and he really isn't the most outgoing or personable guy - but I'm an economist and fiscally conservative and I like the way he is running things.  I voted for him and I would vote for him again.  I have to admit that for my age I am a little traditional and conservative so probably lots of Canadian women would disagree with me.

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I'm from Quebec and I know absolutely no one who voted for Harper, but as always, Quebec is very different from the rest of Canada.

 I don't "hate him" per say, and I can see many great things he did throughout his mandates. I simply do not share at all the views of his party.


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11-14-2012 at 9:06 AM
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gscoville:
I'm pretty out-there liberal but I A) quite actively dislike Michael Ignatieff and B) don't think the NDP have what it takes to pull Canada through this global economic downturn in any positive way. So I voted for Harper. I'm rather ambivalent towards him, don't like or dislike him, but I can appreciate that even though he's a conservative, he's not interested in turning back any laws around same sex marriage, abortion, etc. and has actually ended the highly ineffective money sinkhole that was the long gun registry. And ultimately, getting through these tough economic times is pretty much the most important consideration right now, and I think Harper is best equipped to do that. 

I also agree with a lot of this, though I did not actually vote for Harper. I don't really like any of our leaders right now, both federal and provincial (I'm in Ontario), in all honesty.

I disagree with most of what Harper stands for and the way he has gone about doing many things. That said, he is an extremely intelligent person and I do give him credit for getting us through these last rough economic years.

I said I wouldn't talk politics and here I am this morning!  I would argue (in a very polite Canadian way) that it was Paul Martin as Finance Minister, who set Canada up to weather the financial downturn.  Paul created a nice pillow when things were going well.  Basically the opposite of what happened to USA/Obama. 

Just out of curiosity, what do my fellow Canucks thing of Justin Trudeau? I'm liberal, but I'm just not sure about him....

 Other than finding extremely arogant, I think he might be a good leader for the liberal party. He has done great things as a deputy in Montreal for the last years and is really involved in the community. His father was certainly controversed but did great things for Canada.

I'm still completely unsure who I will vote for at the next election, but I'd rather vote for Justin Trudeau than Michael Igniatieff for sure.


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11-14-2012 at 9:16 AM
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Well, the economy is good/ok so I guess he can't be that awful. I agree though that he's not some glorious saviour of the economy, he came in to a good situation and has been fortunate to an extent. I don't agree with his/Conservative social policy and his hair is awful.

I think Justin Trudeau is charismatic, young, good looking, etc. and would probably do good things for the Liberals profile, but I don't know that he has it in him to lead.

 


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11-14-2012 at 11:23 AM
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He is definitely the butt of a lot of jokes and it seems like no one is crazy about him, but there's not exactly a line up of amazing candidates to choose from either. 

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11-14-2012 at 12:25 PM
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RayRay007:

I think Justin Trudeau is charismatic, young, good looking, etc. and would probably do good things for the Liberals profile, but I don't know that he has it in him to lead.

This is how I feel about him too. Plus arrogant. He seems very showy and I wonder what he really has to offer.  I guess time will tell.





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11-14-2012 at 1:51 PM
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Hate is a strong word. I don't hate him. I don't believe in what he stands for though. I work for a particular branch of the canadian gov and I think he's doing alot of harm to our system. The Liberals need a good leader to actually stand a chance. My DH actaully met Steven Harper and said he's a pretty nice guy, very soft spoken.

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I'll be an odd one out and say that I am conservative and will probably always be conservative.  That said, I do appreciate all the things that Harper has done to get us through this recession in the place we are now but I don't find Harper to be extraordinarily better or worse then any other leader really.


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RayRay007:

I think Justin Trudeau is charismatic, young, good looking, etc. and would probably do good things for the Liberals profile, but I don't know that he has it in him to lead.

 

Exactly. I'm not sure I'd trust him and something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it's the arrogance, I don't know. 

It is unfortunate that there are so few young, charismatic people in Canadian politics. We could use a lot more. At the very least, maybe Justin Trudeau could inspire that and down the road, we'll have some worthy contenders. All of the parties could use some fresh perspective.

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