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11-22-2012 at 11:32 AM
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The "Rules" for names

Because I'm overdue and bored (Canadian, so everyone's at work) - what do you think are the rules one should follow in picking a name for a baby? I know these are personal, and all, but I'm just curious if there's a consensus on some rules, and less of one on others.

For example: My husband hates names that are also words, and thinks names should be short (2 syllables best, 3 at most). I don't entirely agree, but I went along with them. (Goodbye birds, flowers, gems, months, seasons, and concepts). But he doesn't really care about meaning of names, where I want the name to at least have a good connection for me, or a good meaning.

 

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11-22-2012 at 11:49 AM
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I have my own rules that we go by.

Give it as your own name when you go somewhere informal (host at an eatery), how do you feel saying/spelling it?

Imagine when your child is getting married and the officient says "Do you (name) take so and so". Do you think he will be proud of that name?

If you were looking to hire someone how would you feel receieving a resume/application with that name? Would you take the name seriously? 

If for any reason the name has to be stated in court, will the judge take him seriously?

What bad teasing names can come from it? Kids will always be cruel. 

 

 

 


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11-22-2012 at 12:03 PM
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Goes well with LN (we had MNs picked out so we made them do well with that too)

No youneek spellings

Real names

Not super trendy and not in top 50

Ages well

No cheesy NNs that will be hard to prevent

Goes well with siblings

No bad initials

Nothing people will constantly spell or pronounce wrong


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11-22-2012 at 12:08 PM
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We had to both really like it. Otherwise, we really didn't have rules.

Neither of us likes anything too crazy so I guess we didn't need them.

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11-22-2012 at 12:31 PM
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I try to picture the name on an awkward preteen with glasses and braces, which all our LO's will likely be at some point.  If the name still works on then, it's a keeper.  It needs to coordinate well with DS's name.  I also need it to sound good with our last name and not have any real negative associations.  Other than that, meaning, length, theme doesn't really matter to me.

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11-22-2012 at 12:41 PM
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For me, there are only two big rules:

1) Remember you are naming an adult, not just a baby (i.e., no cutesy names that sound ridiculous on an adult)

2) Name must have the proper syllable flow - in our case, our last name is one syllable so we wanted at least a two syllable first name


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11-22-2012 at 1:01 PM
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My rules:

Middle name should be after a family member.

You should be able to tell if the child is a boy or girl by their name, not all unisex.

First name should be something both parents love.

Initials can't spell bad words.
11-22-2012 at 1:14 PM
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My rules are that the name not be "made up" and weird, that the MN doesn't start with the same letter or sound that the FN ended with, same rule for MN and LN, and that the initials don't spell anything that will bring on teasing. No MRS no ASS...you know.
11-22-2012 at 2:25 PM
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A name I love and would want as my own.

Something kids can't make into something mean.

It has to be their given name no nickname, I don't want my child to be the one in class saying "Here but I go by ...." (i.e.Thomasina but call her Tommi) 

The name has to flow off the tongue easily, all 3 names together.

No complicated long first name that is hard to spell when they get to school.

I could see myself calling the name out in a crowded place or out the front door.

Not top importance but family names or associations are nice...even if it is just in the initials.


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11-22-2012 at 2:51 PM
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We use the MN spot for family.

We tend to like names that are high on the SSA chart but ones that we don't hear often.

No misspelled or "invented' names

I prefer for my children to not have to worry about their name being spelled wrong or having a hard time spelling it themselves. I don't think they need a "one-of-a-kind" name in order to be unique and special.

ETA: Also, this site is a nice way to see how a name is used in different situations.

http://www.babynamegenie.com/baby-name-test-drive.php

 



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11-22-2012 at 3:04 PM
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For a boy's name, I tried to imagine a teenage girl calling my son and saying in a giddy girly way "Can I talk to "Aidan?"  My son's middle name of Thomas comes from my FIL and BIL whose name is Thomas--I was honoring them. 

 For a girl's name, I tried to think about how the name would look on a wedding invitation.  I also went to shutterfly and played around with different girl names -first name, middle name, last name-and just saw how it looked on the birth announcement. 

There just happened to be a connection with both of the names that I chose for my children.

I really liked Irish boy names because of my Irish heritage.  My name is Diana-if you change the letters around, it spells Aidan. 

For a girl, I was going back and forth between Caitlin (my Irish heritage) and Noelle (my French heritage).  My grandmother's maiden last name was Noel, and her father was from France.  Someone else actually pointed out to me that if you take my married last name of Coonelly--most of the letters are in Noelle--except for the last "e".  Noelle was for me was just unique and just natural --and I feel that a woman should be beautiful in a natural way--and my daughter was like a really great gift on Christmas day, even thought she was born at the end of April. 

I think that a baby's name should have a story about how you came up with that name. 

It is fun to meet other mothers who have named their boy Aidan or their girl Noelle, and we just talk about our child's name.  I actually did meet a mother that named her daughter Noel Elizabeth--she was calling out her daughter's name on the playground, so we talked about our daughter's name.


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11-22-2012 at 3:37 PM
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My rules would be that the name:

a) has to sound good.

b) has to be real and a legitimate spelling, unless it is a family name (which doesn't really effect my family- spellings are pretty vanilla!)

c) can't have any obvious, horrible associations. I don't really care if I went to high school with someone with that name, but it can't be previous relationships' names.

d)For a first name, I would prefer not to have anyone in my family with the same name. I am really close to all my family, and once I am really close to someone, their name doesn't really excite me anymore, kwim? (that might not make any sense, haha ... I do like family names for middle names though!)

e)not one of the top 10-20 names. Some of them are beautiful, but when they are said so often they loose their shine for me.

f)If there is an obvious nn (ie, Jen for Jennifer) both parents have to like it just as much as full name. For Elizabeth, I only like the nn Libby or the full Elizabeth, but since there are so many variations, I would just avoid it as a fn altogether. If dc Elizabeth grew up wanting to be called Lizzy, I can't really control that! so I would rather just avoid that situation altogether. :)

 

11-22-2012 at 7:09 PM
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I am probably going to forget a few but:

Not made up, legit spelling though less common is ok (Elinor vs. Eleanor).  An actual name, not a noun.

Gender appropriate.  I'm just not into gender neutral or the new fad of stealing boy names for girls.

Does have a nickname, bonus if there are several.  Scarlett is nice but I'd hate for her to be Scar.  Elizabeth is awesome because there are so many nicknames she can choose to go by.  I cross off a name if a possible nickname will violate the gender appropriate thing.  Love Charlotte, hate the nn Charlie.

I don't like it to be too popular or high on the SSA list.  I also check Name Nerds' site to see the true popularity if there are spelling variations.  But I make exceptions for classics like William and Elizabeth. 

I usually compare 2011 popularity with that of 1880.  I love 19th century and earlier literature, am a historian and so I love old names.  I want it to have history.

I want it to make sense phonetically in English when the child learns to spell it.  I like Gaelic names on someone else's kid but it's just not a good fit for me. 

Meaning is really big for me.  I like it to have significance to us as well.  I might not discount Cecilia because it means blind, but I would discount a name that means demon or thief or something.

Has decent flow, but if there's greater significance then that outweighs the flow.

DH is really into honoring family.  I like that for his side, but there's no one on my side I want to honor. So this is the least of my rules.

ETA:  I did forget one!  I would prefer no one in my circle of family/friends to have the name or something very close to it, unless I'm picking a popular name.  I know this is insane and futile because circles evolve and there's no guarantee to keep it that way.  But I was traumatized as a kid from this.  I won't think twice about knowing another Elizabeth but I will think twice about knowing another Eloise.


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11-22-2012 at 7:16 PM
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Our unwritten rules were:

-  It had to be a "real" name with a history.

- We wanted a family name either in the fn or mn spot (Elinor was DH's grandmother.)

- A name not currently given to a close friend or family member (so even though I love the names Emily and Hannah, there are cousins in our family with those names, so they were not up for consideration.)

- It had to sound good with our last name.

- We both had to like it.

11-22-2012 at 7:33 PM
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to OP, and any other Canucks in this thread -  I know, Thanksgiving was last month...hopefully there's still some black Friday deals up here though lol

 

My rules - names have to be real, and have normal spelling (not youneek). Preferably common enough that they won't constantly have to spell it out. I'd consider a Gaelic name like Siobhan because most people know how it's spelled, even though the spelling doesn't make sense in English.

I also tend to stay away from names with multiple spellings ie) Anna, Ana, or Ann, Anne, I wouldn't want to constantly spell it out.

Names shouldn't be too cutesy, and if there's a concern about it aging well then the mn MUST be 'adult' so that at least the kid has a choice. I like pp's 'would this sound reasonable if the name was said in court'

I prefer names where I can tell if it's a boy or a girl, although I'd consider a unisex name. Not a fan of boys names on girls.

The meaning of names isn't really important to me.

 Popular doesn't bother me, although there are some names I'm a bit tired of.  I'd stay away from names where my family would constantly interact with someone with the same name (ie having a cousin with the same name)

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11-22-2012 at 7:45 PM
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Some great rules!  Mine is along a lot of the same lines --- just remember that you are naming a PERSON, who will one day be an adult.  You are not naming a pet, or an accessory to show off how unique or cool or smart you are.


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11-22-2012 at 8:26 PM
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Hmm, so what makes a name real, I wonder? It's not that I disagree that a name should be real, but I kind of wonder where that line is. I mean, how does a new name make that jump?

I don't know, but I've got a strong feeling about a lot of names being real, or not real. And I swear I don't know where it comes from.


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11-22-2012 at 10:30 PM
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I don't have any rules for names, but I have a Julian and if I have another boy anytime, I feel like the boy's name should be at the same caliber as Julian...like Gabriel is our future boy name (if that ever happens) I feel like it goes well but isn't too matchy matchy,

 
11-23-2012 at 12:34 AM
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- we both had to like it.

-spelled correctly.

-for girl, no cutesy names (ie: Emma) 

-if named after family member, that family member had to be deceased, or.....we used their middle name instead of honored person's first name. We didn't want a Ed and Little Ed.

-if boy, not named after his father.

-not popular (not in the top 300)

-Had to sound good with strong German last name 


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11-23-2012 at 7:47 AM
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Has to have a decently long history

Spelled traditionally

No more than 3 syllables

Flows with last name

Timeless, NOT trendy. No names that were basically nonexistent on the popularity charts before the 80s (Aidan, Addison) that will sound dated in 30 years. A good test is whether I've met people of all ages with a certain name Every Amanda I've met as been born in the 80s, every Aidan I've met was born after 2000, but I've known Catherines, Elizabeths, Benjamins, Lukes and Ians of all ages.

 
11-23-2012 at 9:49 AM
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Y I Oughta:

I have my own rules that we go by.

Give it as your own name when you go somewhere informal (host at an eatery), how do you feel saying/spelling it?

Imagine when your child is getting married and the officient says "Do you (name) take so and so". Do you think he will be proud of that name?

If you were looking to hire someone how would you feel receieving a resume/application with that name? Would you take the name seriously? 

If for any reason the name has to be stated in court, will the judge take him seriously?

What bad teasing names can come from it? Kids will always be cruel. 

 

 

 

 

oh, i think EVERYONE should follow this! great advice. 



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11-23-2012 at 1:00 PM
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My #1 rule is: would I vote for someone named ____ for public office (like president)?

Some of my other rules:

My partner and I have to both feel connected to the name as well as every possible nickname. A good example (that someone else already mentioned) is Elizabeth. It's a beautiful name with a beautiful meaning, and it has LOTS of nickname possibilities. Since I don't like all of the nicknames, I won't be using Elizabeth.

No creative misspellings of nouns, adjectives, etc to make them seem more "namey." I feel sad for all the little girls named Stormee or Neveah who will one day be adults with childishly stupid names.

No gender benders. Some names truly are unisex (like Ashley/Ashleigh), but there are far fewer than you would think by the way people are throwing around old man names for little girls.

Initials and monogram can't have any weird or vulgar spellings. No A.S.S., S.T.D., S.A.T., F.U.K., F.B.I., etc.

If every one of these rules has been met by my name, the final test is to run it by every adolescent I know to see what types of playground nicknames they can come up with. We all want to think our children will be perfectly sweet little angels at school, but the truth is that every child is capable of cruelty. It's best to give them as little ammunition against your own child as possible.

That list feels a little long, but that's all of my criteria for my little squirt's name. 


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11-23-2012 at 2:20 PM
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I saw all sorts of rules before we chose a name [syllables, sounds etc] that we threw out when we actually picked! We had a hard time agreeing to a name so I didn't really care about "flow."

My biggest "thing" was that the name needed a NN we liked. I love Eloise but didn't like Ellie so when we figured out Elsie worked as the NN we were sold!

The MN was going to be something we both liked but would never use as the FN. We both really loved Clementine but I was pretty strongly against using it as her FN because it's a long name without a cute NN. 

11-24-2012 at 12:31 AM
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Boys:

  1. Traditionally male 
  2. Can be shortened into a NN that I like (see rule #1; think Tom, Nick, Will)
  3. Fits with LN (LN is of British/Welsh origin)
  4. No Old Testament names

Girls:

  1. Not in top 100
  2. French, German, or Scandinavian in origin
  3. No Bible names (neither Old nor New Testament)
  4. Must sound good with LN (LN is 3 syllables with *dt* and -er sounds)

Both:

  1. Not something I can see on an animal
  2. Named after themselves
  3. Must have an *F* MN (MN can be family)

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11-24-2012 at 11:10 PM
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Basically, it just needs to be a normal name without a weird spelling.  There is an irish boy name I love but cannot get past the spelling because I just know that everyone would have a terrible time pronouncing it.


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