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11-30-2012 at 11:17 AM
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Update to I'm back..maybe

After 18 days of bleeding I finally stopped and had blood work done on cd22. All the hormone tests came back great except my progesterone. That came back as .6 yep there's my problem. My doctor is waiting on one more test to check out my eggs then she wants me to start Clomid. I'm so nervous after reading some women had really bad experiences on it. Of course others had great results but can't help being a little skeptical. Anyone have any advice? TIA 
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11-30-2012 at 11:23 AM
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Were you charting to figure out when/if you O? 

IIRC, the progesterone b/w is only helpful at 7DPO...
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11-30-2012 at 11:31 AM
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Slapptastic:

Were you charting to figure out when you O? 

IIRC, the progesterone b/w is only helpful at 7DPO...

 

I don't temp but I do those opks everyday. I have had positive tests but my doc said I get to a certain point and no egg drops. Not sure really because she went over it with me on the phone. I know when I get AF I'm supposed to call her to have the tests done again.  

 
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11-30-2012 at 11:44 AM
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Roseallen112:
Slapptastic:

Were you charting to figure out when you O? 

IIRC, the progesterone b/w is only helpful at 7DPO...

 

I don't temp but I do those opks everyday. I have had positive tests but my doc said I get to a certain point and no egg drops. Not sure really because she went over it with me on the phone. I know when I get AF I'm supposed to call her to have the tests done again.  

There are plenty of women that ovulate later in their cycle.  What was the time frame after which your doctor told you that your egg will no longer drop...?

ETA:  Is your doctor planning to do CD3 blood work as well?

ETA2: Did you have an HSG and YH have an SA?  All of those should be done before you go on Clomid.

ETA3: What kind of monitoring is your doctor planning for you, for while you're on Clomid?

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11-30-2012 at 12:07 PM
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Slapptastic:
Roseallen112:
Slapptastic:

Were you charting to figure out when you O? 

IIRC, the progesterone b/w is only helpful at 7DPO...

 

I don't temp but I do those opks everyday. I have had positive tests but my doc said I get to a certain point and no egg drops. Not sure really because she went over it with me on the phone. I know when I get AF I'm supposed to call her to have the tests done again.  

There are plenty of women that ovulate later in their cycle.  What was the time frame after which your doctor told you that your egg will no longer drop...?

ETA:  Is your doctor planning to do CD3 blood work as well?

ETA2: Did you have an HSG and YH have an SA?  All of those should be done before you go on Clomid.

ETA3: What kind of monitoring is your doctor planning for you, for while you're on Clomid?

I am really crazy with my cycles, sometimes I skip months, get it twice in one month etc. I'm not sure what you mean by time frame. She sent me for tests on cd22 I ovulated (well got a pos opk) on cd27. From how she explained it my progesterone has to be around ten or so for an egg to drop and I was only .6 ... 

I'm guessing I'm supposed to call her when I get AF so I can be tested again.

And as far as her plans I think I'm in the beginning stages of all this so we haven't gone over everything yet.  That's why I posted this to see what other women's experience were. 
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11-30-2012 at 12:25 PM
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Roseallen112:

I am really crazy with my cycles, sometimes I skip months, get it twice in one month etc. I'm not sure what you mean by time frame. She sent me for tests on cd22 I ovulated (well got a pos opk) on cd27. From how she explained it my progesterone has to be around ten or so for an egg to drop and I was only .6 ... 

I'm guessing I'm supposed to call her when I get AF so I can be tested again.

And as far as her plans I think I'm in the beginning stages of all this so we haven't gone over everything yet.  That's why I posted this to see what other women's experience were. 

You can ovulate as late as CD27.

Your progesterone only rises AFTER you O.  If you had a positive OPK on CD27, (and you O'd off of that LH surge) then the b/w on CD22 was completely meaningless.  If you're only using OPKs, then you need your b/w to be drawn about 8 days after your positive OPK - regardless of what CD it is.

What kind of doctor are you seeing?  An RE, OB/GYN, GP?

I highly recommend charting your BBT along with checking CM and using OPKs.  It might help you figure out what's going on and if you happen to be seeing an RE, it'll help give them a good picture of your cycle as well.

Also, I just saw that you had a loss.  I am so very very sorry.

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11-30-2012 at 12:32 PM
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OP I'm sorry for your loss.

I had an ovulatory cycle in which I actually O'd on CD46. People have had BFPs from cycles that were 100+ days long. I agree with everything that Slaps has said, too.


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11-30-2012 at 12:35 PM
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I would be running far, far away from a doctor who wants to give you clomid after falsely diagnosing you with low progesterone before you even ovulated. Yikes.
 
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11-30-2012 at 2:49 PM
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You guys would certainly know more about the stuff then me but I think the initial tests were done to find out why I'm bleeding so long. So let me see if I get this right my progesterone should be that low before you ovulate? I know when I got pregnant with my son I had to take progesterone then she has to up twice so I know I have issues with that. 

 

And I thought when you get a positive opk it doesn't necessarily mean you ovulated. Ugh this stuff is so confusing. Ok I think the best choice for right now is temping to see what it going on.

 

The doctor I am seeing is a ob/gyn.

 

Thank you all for your advice since I'm clueless even after researching this stuff.

 
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11-30-2012 at 3:03 PM
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Roseallen112:

You guys would certainly know more about the stuff then me but I think the initial tests were done to find out why I'm bleeding so long. So let me see if I get this right my progesterone should be that low before you ovulate? I know when I got pregnant with my son I had to take progesterone then she has to up twice so I know I have issues with that. 

 

And I thought when you get a positive opk it doesn't necessarily mean you ovulated. Ugh this stuff is so confusing. Ok I think the best choice for right now is temping to see what it going on.

 

The doctor I am seeing is a ob/gyn.

 

Thank you all for your advice since I'm clueless even after researching this stuff.

 

I'm very sorry for your loss.

You are correct that a positive OPK doesn't guarantee you will ovulate. But if you had bloodwork on CD22 and then got a positive OPK later in your cycle you most likely did not O 7 days before the bloodwork which makes the bloodwork meaningless. Your progesterone should be low before you ovulate. 

How long have you been TTC? If you are considering taking Clomid, you should be seeing an RE and you need all the proper testing done first (CD3 bloodwork, HSG, SA for DH, and ultrasounds once you start Clomid).

I would suggest charting your BBT for a few cycles to see if and when you are ovulating before starting a dangerous drug like Clomid. Good luck.  

ETA: Did you have 18 days of bleeding only after your loss or do you frequently have long cycles or bleeding?  
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11-30-2012 at 3:08 PM
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Roseallen112:

You guys would certainly know more about the stuff then me but I think the initial tests were done to find out why I'm bleeding so long. So let me see if I get this right my progesterone should be that low before you ovulate? I know when I got pregnant with my son I had to take progesterone then she has to up twice so I know I have issues with that. 

And I thought when you get a positive opk it doesn't necessarily mean you ovulated. Ugh this stuff is so confusing. Ok I think the best choice for right now is temping to see what it going on.

The doctor I am seeing is a ob/gyn.

Thank you all for your advice since I'm clueless even after researching this stuff.

Yes, your progesterone increases after you O.  What basically happens is when you ovulate, the spot on your ovary where you ovulate from starts producing progesterone in case you do get pregnant.  The progesterone is actually what raises your basal body temperature (making your body more hospitable for a fertilized egg to thrive), which is why women can generally see an upward shift in temperatures after they ovulate.

1st Bold: It's true that you might not O off of a positive OPK.  The only way to find out at home if you're O'ing is to temp.  OPKs do help with figuring out timing and temping.

2nd Bold:  Is there anything in particular that you're unclear about?  Maybe we can help some more.
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11-30-2012 at 3:41 PM
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I've always had three days of AF the timing was always different but as for bleeding it has always been three days. In July I had AF but she never went away. That's when I got a BFP but when I went to the doctor she said I wasn't pregnant because my numbers were too low for a pregnancy. Later I find out that it was a miscarriage so that was the first time I had extended bleeding. The next month was normal (for me) September I had a few extra days of spotting but nothing too crazy. Oct 30 AF came and didn't leave until November 16th. I went to the dr and she said everything looked good and I was almost done bleeding. She sent me for FSH, estradiol, and a few other ones along with two types of cancer tests and diabetes.  My blood work came back with a low platelet count (117) and the .6 progesterone other than that everything was perfect. I tested positive on a opk on 11/26 but no cm. I actually just had EWCM today. So when I spoke to her about my results she said she wants to see how my AMH came back and if everything is good then I'll go for a sonogram. We left off our convo by me having to call as soon as AF comes to have blood work done again. 

So yeah that's my story. Oh and I noticed someone saying about having DH tested but if since we had a baby already and I'm the one showing up all screwy they didn't even consider testing him. 

Is Clomid that dangerous? My good friend just went on it for unexplained infertility to boost her chances and got pregnant on the first cycle. 
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11-30-2012 at 4:01 PM
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Roseallen112:

So yeah that's my story. Oh and I noticed someone saying about having DH tested but if since we had a baby already and I'm the one showing up all screwy they didn't even consider testing him. 

Is Clomid that dangerous? My good friend just went on it for unexplained infertility to boost her chances and got pregnant on the first cycle. 

He should still have a SA if you are considering Clomid. Clomid absolutely has benefits and has helped many women get pregnant, but it can have serious side effects such as cysts and thinning your lining if not monitored properly. It also has a lifetime limit of 6 cycles so it shouldn't be taken lightly. 

It can take some time for your body to adjust after a loss. It doesn't sound like you have been trying for over a year, so I would give it some time before considering Clomid, and if you do get to the point where it's needed then please go to an RE.  

 
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11-30-2012 at 4:45 PM
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Okay I definitely feel more confident going in there knowing all this stuff. It's only been 6months so I know it's early but I'm more worried about the bleeding and all the other crap. 

I will let you all know how it goes the next work up. Maybe I'll get super lucky and just get a BFP this cycle lol yeah right...

thanks so much! 
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11-30-2012 at 7:09 PM
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