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12-02-2012 at 8:54 PM
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HELP :( miscarrying??

I went to the Dr today with brown bleeding and cramping....I think I'm about 5 1/2- 6 weeks...hcg levels are almost at 10,000....they did an ultrasound and found only a sac and they said baby should have been there with a heartbeat..especially since my levels are so high...they said that my pregnancy was not viable and that I would need a D&C...i said no I was going to wait and see if I miscarry naturally.....:( any thoughts!?!? what is going on!? :( why are my levels so good but I'm apparently going to miscarry? (according to them)
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12-02-2012 at 8:58 PM
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Im not sure why your numbers are soo good...my numbers were also high, but today I am cramping and bleeding (red).  I am going to the ER now....I pray that everything is ok with u as well as myself.....GL and TC
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12-02-2012 at 9:00 PM
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Have you asked your doctor these questions?

 

my dr is on vacation :/ but she said it could be just dead tissue causing my numbers to go up...but she wasn't 100% sure I would miscarry...which is why I opted out of the D&C 
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12-02-2012 at 9:00 PM
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I would wait a week to see if there is a HB. At 5.5/6 weeks there is little chance of a HB yet. Wait it out a bit and see. I hope you get good results.
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12-02-2012 at 9:01 PM
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So sorry. :( I've had 5 losses myself. They are never easy. Good Luck to you. You probably won't know a reason for this unless there is testing done afterwards. I've never had a D&C for any of my losses.
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12-02-2012 at 9:02 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear you're going through this. I would also wait a little while and see if you miscarry naturally or what happens. I thought I read somewhere that a heartbeat can't reliably be found before 6 weeks, but obviously I'm not a medical professional, so I'm not sure about the hcg level threshold and everything. T&P!
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Hello I am sorry to hear this I know at 6 weeks the baby very tiny and may not be visible to hear yet happen to me I had wait till I was 8 weeks to hear heart beat I would wait and see or go to the ER I'm sure your fine if you're that high in HCG 
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12-02-2012 at 9:08 PM
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YoungMommy2010:
I went to the Dr today with brown bleeding and cramping....I think I'm about 5 1/2- 6 weeks...hcg levels are almost at 10,000....they did an ultrasound and found only a sac and they said baby should have been there with a heartbeat..especially since my levels are so high...they said that my pregnancy was not viable and that I would need a D&C...i said no I was going to wait and see if I miscarry naturally.....:( any thoughts!?!? what is going on!? :( why are my levels so good but I'm apparently going to miscarry? (according to them)

 

Hi. I would hold off on the D & C. You're still so early on and at 5.5 weeks, there's usually just a sac and the heartbeat is not detected yet. I am an ultrasound technologist.  The heartbeat is usually detected around 7 weeks.   Just wait it out a bit more, especially with your Hcg levels being good.  I am 10.5 wks pregnant, I too only found a sac at actually 5 wks. I had a transvaginal ultrasound. I came back and got another U/S at 7.5 weeks and the baby was there and with a heartbeat.  So don't lose hope and don't let them give you the D&C yet. Hold off please.  Take care. Let me know if you need help. 
 
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I'd find another doctor if yours said they wanted to do a D and C after not seeing a heartbeat at under six weeks, whether you are miscarrying or not. We only saw the gestational and yolk sacs then, and my betas were at 9,075. Good luck to you.
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12-02-2012 at 9:11 PM
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I saw a couple of ppl mentioning possibly going to the ER. I wouldn't waste the time/$ if I were you. They won't be able to do anything if you are having a mc. Make another appt with your doctor.
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Are you basing your 5weeks on ovulation or LMP? At the beginning of my pregnancy, I thought I was 7 weeks along (based on LMP, but I O late in my cycle). I went to the doctor for cramping issues, and they did an US. There was a sac, but no visible baby/hb. I had my HCG levels drawn, and they were at 3000. The doctor said I could be miscarrying. They wanted to see me back in two days for another HCG draw. My levels went up, but barely doubled. They adjusted my 7 weeks to 4weeks, and did another US a week later, and saw a wonderful, healthy heart beat. I now have a very happy and healthy 4 month old.

Please try not to worry, I know it's hard, but wait and see if your levels go up!


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Brown Blood is old blood from my understanding....Cramping is normal during early pregnancy on some levels....I had a internal US (sorry dont know the right term) when I was 7wks 4 days and the baby was so tiny and had a little heart beat that we could see but it was too young to hear.

I agree with the other ladies WAIT! dont do anything yet. dont panic either. T&Ps 
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12-02-2012 at 9:28 PM
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YoungMommy2010:
I went to the Dr today with brown bleeding and cramping....I think I'm about 5 1/2- 6 weeks...hcg levels are almost at 10,000....they did an ultrasound and found only a sac and they said baby should have been there with a heartbeat..especially since my levels are so high...they said that my pregnancy was not viable and that I would need a D&C...i said no I was going to wait and see if I miscarry naturally.....:( any thoughts!?!? what is going on!? :( why are my levels so good but I'm apparently going to miscarry? (according to them)

 

Hi. I would hold off on the D & C. You're still so early on and at 5.5 weeks, there's usually just a sac and the heartbeat is not detected yet. I am an ultrasound technologist.  The heartbeat is usually detected around 7 weeks.   Just wait it out a bit more, especially with your Hcg levels being good.  I am 10.5 wks pregnant, I too only found a sac at actually 5 wks. I had a transvaginal ultrasound. I came back and got another U/S at 7.5 weeks and the baby was there and with a heartbeat.  So don't lose hope and don't let them give you the D&C yet. Hold off please.  Take care. Let me know if you need help. 

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12-02-2012 at 9:30 PM
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thank you SO MUCH everyone <3 it means a lot! 

i also maybe thought I could be pregnant with twins?? my mother in law was pregnant with twins two times and miscarried one of them each time. idk it was just something I thought of....but I'm just at home now, cramping and spotting stopped for now, just going to see if I start miscarrying on my own or if things progress. I go in on Tuesday for more lab work. it's hard waiting but I'm finding peace in God's will  
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12-02-2012 at 9:40 PM
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I think it's probably fine. Go back and ask for another transvaginal ultrasound in 2 or 3 weeks. That time if the pregnancy is viable, you would hear the heartbeat and see your little bean.  You will also usually see the heart beating. I am surprised at whoever did your U/S at what this tech told you, scared you. Spotting and a little cramping is mostly normal in early pregnancy.  Brown blood is usually old blood.  
 
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12-02-2012 at 9:41 PM
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Had the same thing happen.... Everything was good, I was 11 weeks and I started to spot.... Went to the er and the ultrasound tech stated there was only a sac. When I went to see my sr the next day she recommended that we schedule a dc since she didn't think I could pass the sac naturally being I was already 11 weeks.... Well sad to say as I was at the hospital registering for my dc I actually passed my sac in the outpatient restroom....

I say give it some time to let your body react.... Listen to your body

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12-02-2012 at 10:13 PM
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I am so sorry you are going through this. I have had four miscarriages, and they never get any easier.

I don't want to give you false hope, but doctors have been known to be wrong on more than one occasion with regard to this topic. You have to realize that they are trying to see something the size of a poppyseed, on a fuzzy computer screen, with a large probe. Please stay strong and don't do the d&c if you don't feel comfortable.  Currently my God-sister is at home with her three day old son who was a diagnosed "blighted ovum" scheduled for a d&c. She didn't feel comfortable with the procedure, and wanted to allow things to progress naturally.

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12-02-2012 at 10:15 PM
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Id wait. They told my cousin the same thing a few years back. Recommended having the procedure the next day.
My cousin put it off. Went in a week later. They found a heartbeat. If she didnt wait she wouldve accidentally aborted her son!!
Obviously this may not be the outcome for everyone. But id definitely wait.
Did they do a transvaginal? I dont remember if u said that or not. But id wait a week and ask for a transvaginal ultrasound. T and Ps
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I think you're smart for waiting it out.  I'm not a dr, but I don't feel like the evidence is conclusive enough to go for a D&C.... I wouldn't think there's anything wrong with waiting a week and going back.  :)

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this and I hope everything turns out well for you!!

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12-03-2012 at 6:33 AM
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Brown spotting and cramping is normal. I would definitely wait it out. And FIND A NEW DOCTOR!
 
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12-03-2012 at 7:29 AM
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I'm sorry. I hope things turn out differently than your doctor says. 
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12-03-2012 at 9:07 AM
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I would def wait and like everyone else said find a new DOCTOR...a lot of times at that early you cant see the hearbeat or even a baby because you are not far enough along...
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When my hcg was at 16000 at the mid-5 week point, we only saw a gestational sac and yolk sac, no fetal pole and no heartbeat. Saw the fetal pole and heartbeat the following week.

I've been through multiple mc and my ob would never call for a d&c before the 7 week point. She always waits and sees how things develop. Get a second opinion or wait a few weeks before making that decision. 
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At 5 1/2 to 6 weeks, you won't always see a baby w/ a heartbeat.  I'm really surprised you were told that there "should have been a baby".  It's so early and things change quickly.  I was exactly 6w when I went in for an u/s for spotting.  All we saw was a gestational sac.  No yolk sac or fetal pole.  My OB said it was fine and had me come back at 8w.  I did and we saw the heartbeat and baby was measuring exactly 8w.  I never had betas done w/ any of my pregnancies so I can't speak to that but I would wait and see if a) the bleeding stops and b) an u/s in a week shows something more.

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I'd find another doctor if yours said they wanted to do a D and C after not seeing a heartbeat at under six weeks, whether you are miscarrying or not. We only saw the gestational and yolk sacs then, and my betas were at 9,075. Good luck to you.

 I second this... when I was in the ER at 5.5ish weeks with both my pregnancies (they were concerned about ectopic pregnancies both times), they saw a gestational sac and yolk sac but no fetal pole or heartbeat. A week later both times, there was a baby with a heartbeat. (One of those pregnancies ended badly, but this one is looking good!) It seems a little off that they'd declare you're miscarrying just based on that. I'd definitely get a second opinion before you do anything drastic.
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I agree with all the other posters.  Give it another week or two. 

Good luck and I hope everything works out for you.
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I'd be ready to sue whoever told you there was a problem. It is *completely* normal to not see a hb at 5 1/2 - 6 weeks, you usually won't see it until 6 1/2 weeks, and those few days DO make a difference! Especially with your beta numbers being good, I would get another u/s next week, I'd bet money on everything being just fine then.
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I went to the Dr for the same thing (cramping and brown spotting) at a little over 5 weeks too.  My Hcg levels were 18,000, but there was just an empty sac on the U/S.  The seemed a bit surprised that you couldn't see anything with those numbers, but just told me to take it easy and come back in 2 weeks.  I went back in at 7 weeks and saw a tiny baby with a strong HB.  I wouldn't give up hope yet!  Good luck - hoping for the best!!
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