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12-03-2012 at 5:58 AM
mama&baby
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WCM and sleeping issues (long sorry)

(I will probably repost on the toddlers board)

So here I was thinking LO would love WCM... I am not sure which he hates more; that his bottle is being taken away or that he now has to drink milk (doc says no WCM in a bottle- sippy cup only). We are on his 4th day of WCM consumption. I am thinking it's more of a bottle issue because on the day of his birthday we gave him WCM in a bottle so he wouldn't be in a bad mood and he drank about 10-12 oz (pedi recommends 12-20). It seems that with the sippy cup we are lucky to get in about 5-7 oz a day. He will scream bloody murder and throw the craziest temper tantrums when I show him the milk. We've tried taking the lid off and letting him drink from just the cup... but that only works when he doesn't hit the cup away. I feel like it's cruel to give him such a small amount of milk a day even though I know food is supposed to be his main source of nutrition. Anyone dealing with this or gotten over this?

Also... for the past 3 weeks LO has been waking up at around 4 AM. He will scream until picked up and immediately fall asleep when you do. I am all for CIO but he will do so for over an hour. I don't want to keep picking up him because then it will turn into a habit but at the same time DH has been helping a friend in the mornings and needs to sleep. It used to be spaced out but now seems to be almost every night. He tends to take short nap (45 min-1 hr) in the morning and a longer one (1.5-2 hrs) in the afternoon. Since he started WCM, he has been resisting all naps.

I could really use any input you have.. this morning I started crying right along with LO. I haven't remembered being this frustrated since he had colic up to 4 months


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12-03-2012 at 7:06 AM
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Now, take my advice with a grain of salt b/c we still have not introduced milk (I am still nursing) and we never did bottles, BUT, if it were me, I'd just give up on milk for a week or two and offer other forms of dairy/calcium - yogurt, cheese, dark greens, etc are great calcium sources.

My daughter loves yogurt, and I make her yogurt smoothies once or twice a day - I mix yogurt with some fruit/veg puree and serve it in a take n toss straw cup, she loves them! 

She also loves plain greek yogurt and it is good for practicing self-feeding with a spoon because it is so nice and thick and stays on the spoon. 

Anyway, just some ideas, but I'd say, drop it with the milk for a few days, see how he does with yogurt instead if he likes it, and then try offering again next week or later on this week even. Just offer a lot of water after meals and you could do water at bed time - we do a sippy of water in the crib with her so she can take a swig if she wakes up thirsty and it works really well. 


 
12-03-2012 at 7:28 AM
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NineTwentyOhEight:

Now, take my advice with a grain of salt b/c we still have not introduced milk (I am still nursing) and we never did bottles, BUT, if it were me, I'd just give up on milk for a week or two and offer other forms of dairy/calcium - yogurt, cheese, dark greens, etc are great calcium sources.

My daughter loves yogurt, and I make her yogurt smoothies once or twice a day - I mix yogurt with some fruit/veg puree and serve it in a take n toss straw cup, she loves them! 

She also loves plain greek yogurt and it is good for practicing self-feeding with a spoon because it is so nice and thick and stays on the spoon. 

Anyway, just some ideas, but I'd say, drop it with the milk for a few days, see how he does with yogurt instead if he likes it, and then try offering again next week or later on this week even. Just offer a lot of water after meals and you could do water at bed time - we do a sippy of water in the crib with her so she can take a swig if she wakes up thirsty and it works really well. 

That's great advice thank you! I will have to make a run to the grocery store!


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12-03-2012 at 7:41 AM
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I don't think some kids are ready to just drop the bottle completely at 1 year old.  While my son was doing fantastic with sippies and milk.  At night he didn't want anything but a bottle.  We just dropped the night bottle and he is 18 months.  But we converted slowly replacing one feeding a day with a sippy of milk. 

 Give it time, introduce it slowly and offer other forms of clacium now until he is a little more accepting.

 
12-03-2012 at 10:10 AM
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I haven't tried to drop the bottle yet so I don't have advice on that.  But I would guess that your LO's sleeping issues are unrelated to the bottle transition. 

I just posted about my 2-to-1 nap transition drama...since your LO is resisting both naps he might be making the transition as well.  If the resistance to taking naps disrupted his schedule he could have gotten overtired which would cause the night wakings.  I totally understand where you're coming from with going to him...but that just reinforces the wakings and as long as you go to him he will keep waking up. 

My suggestion would be to take a look at your overall schedule and see if LO needs changes and unfortunately let him CIO at night. 


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12-03-2012 at 11:43 AM
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This is only my opinion but I would give back the bottle. I really am so sick of pediatricians deciding kids should switch to a sippy in one day- oh wow- you are magically one so take away what you have had since you were born? I phased it out with my first- granted it took till 2, (with a morning and night one left) but I could care less. Take those sippies- and watch the sucking motion- not that different unless you switch to straw cups only

My two cents only.


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12-03-2012 at 11:58 AM
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I agree. Give him the milk in a bottle! As for the wake ups, sleeping goes in phases. Some phases are better than others. You just have to power through. GL

 
12-04-2012 at 12:16 AM
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Lurker here...

DD resisted the wcm in a sippy hardcore for maybe two or three months, but drank any water juice from the sippy. We kept the bottle for a while. I resorted to chocolate milk, and it took a while for her to even drink that.

Yogurt was our friend, she had at least 6oz a day, usually way more, plus cheese cottage cheese. We always offered wcm but didn't push it. Then finally she started drinking the wcm no problem...at 18 mo.

Maybe the lack of wcm is affecting naps by not having a full belly, but it may just be the 21 nap transition. Good luck!


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12-04-2012 at 2:55 AM
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Did you transition to the WCM and sippy or just switch both up at once one day?

I'd give him back the bottle.  And I'd transition in the milk with formula or BM.  We started with 3/4 formula and 1/4 WCM and worked our way up.  Got his stomach used to the WCM first and then a few months later he got sick and stopped taking bottles when we stopped giving him milk so he wouldn't throw up.

Sounds like you might have changed too much too quickly.  There's no reason your kid can't take WCM in a bottle. LO is 1, not 4.


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