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12-05-2012 at 8:20 PM
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How/When to reduce bottles/oz of formula before 1yr.?

I've heard from friends that it would be helpful for me to reduce the frequency of bottles or number of oz given in a day as a way to prepare DD for switching to milk after her first birthday. But how exactly do I do this?

Does anyone know the minimum number of oz of formula your child should get in a day (so I don't give too little)?

I know she still needs the nutrition formula provides until she's 1yo, I just also want her to have a nice transition to milk. Any advice?

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12-06-2012 at 8:17 AM
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Interested in replies because I'm wondering the same thing... and I'm assuming a decrease in bottles means an increase in solids?

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12-06-2012 at 8:19 AM
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What is her bottle schedule now?  We recently dropped a bottle so now he gets bottles at 6 am, 10 am, 2 pm and 6:30 pm.  At first, I was doing 8 ounces bottles, but he's been consistently leaving 2-3 ounces in each bottle. 

I was at the pedi yesterday for a different issue (double ear infection Tongue Tied ) but I did ask him about the feeding transition.  We have been doing sippy's of whole milk at lunch and dinner.  He mentioned that as I push more solids, his intake of formula will decrease.  The goal is that at age 1, he's eating/drinking like the rest of us.  So breakfast, lunch, dinner and two snacks in between.  He will get a sippy of milk at each meal/snack and can have as much as he wants during the day.  He hates juice and water (wtf?) so for now we're just sticking to the whole milk.   DS is nearing this schedule, and his formula intake is decreasing substantially. 

I've also started mixing small amounts of whole milk into his bottles, so he gets used to the taste.  Over the next few weeks, I'll up the amount of whole milk until we're at all whole milk by the time he's 1 in January.


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12-06-2012 at 8:22 AM
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I did want to add that the pedi specifically said that I should feed him solids until he indicates that he's done.  We're almost entirely on table food at this point with the exception of breakfast where I do Stage 3 oatmeal jars in combo with some bananas, cheerios, waffle, pancake, french toast, etc. (obviously not all at the same time).

He takes FOREVERRRRRRRR to eat.  It's messy as hell and as much ends up on his lap/the floor/in his hair as does in his mouth.  The doctor said to be patient, allow him a lot of time to eat, and offer a variety of foods each time.  On average, it can take them 10 times of trying something before they like it. 

It's been an interesting transition because DH and I are super fast eaters.  It's forced us to slow down our eating (probably a good thing anyway). 


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12-06-2012 at 8:58 AM
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With DD1, I didn't know about the whole transitioning thing. I just used up the last of the formula and refused to go out and buy another canister of it. I gave her a warm bottle of milk (2 % because she was REALLY chunky - 26 lbs at 1 year; the pedi. was ok with that to all you detractors), and she loved it. Real milk HAS to taste better than formula, which smells like blood to me. I will try to wean DD2 since I heard a collective gasp from all my friends when I told them the cold turkey method. I mention it because it can be done. DD1 suffered no diarrhea or stomach issues, no fussiness or anything. It was like a new food to her, and she never cared. She really only gets 8 oz of milk a day now at 2 1/2 because she gets calcium from other foods, and she loves water. I give her chocolate milk as a treat, but her milk dependency is gone. I am a true believer that it all works itself out in the end, and there is no one right way to go about it. Good luck! I'm on my first canister of Enfagrow with DD2, and can't wait to stop spending a fortune on formula in 3 months!!! Oh, one last thing. Give serious consideration to organic milk. It just doesn't have all the hormones in it regular milk does. No need for LO to have boobs at 18 months!

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12-06-2012 at 9:06 AM
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Mine aren't fans of bottles so the transition has been easy for us.  We've mostly just followed their lead.  They're down to 3 bottles a day now and get 6-8 ounces per bottle.  We've also started offering their formula in sippy cups first and then whatever they won't drink we dump in a bottle and give them.

Our pediatrician told us the same thing as PP's - offer solids until they don't want anymore.  For dinner now we try to do one finger food (chicken, veggies, ravioli, fruit), one puree, and yogurt (they split a jar of purees and a container of yogurt).  At the other meals we still mostly do purees and yogurt.  They eat at least 6 ounces at each meal and sometimes more.  As they've eaten more solids their formula intake has dropped.  As they got older when they would consistently finish their entire bottles we would also start offering an extra ounce each feeding, so all along we've been working on increasing bottles and increasing the time between bottles.


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12-06-2012 at 9:30 AM
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acaudill75:
I gave her a warm bottle of milk (2 % because she was REALLY chunky - 26 lbs at 1 year; the pedi. was ok with that to all you detractors),

Weird... because this goes against 99% of the medical knowledge I've ever heard...

And WTF....


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12-06-2012 at 9:35 AM
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acaudill75:
I gave her a warm bottle of milk (2 % because she was REALLY chunky - 26 lbs at 1 year; the pedi. was ok with that to all you detractors),

Weird... because this goes against 99% of the medical knowledge I've ever heard...

And WTF....

Same here.  My focus would be on a healthy brain over a slim body.


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12-06-2012 at 9:37 AM
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acaudill75:
I gave her a warm bottle of milk (2 % because she was REALLY chunky - 26 lbs at 1 year; the pedi. was ok with that to all you detractors),

Weird... because this goes against 99% of the medical knowledge I've ever heard...

And WTF....

Well, my pediatrician was ok with it. She is growing like a weed, still in 95% for both height and weight, speaks in two different languages, memorizes whole stories when we read them to her from books, sings, dances, has beautiful teeth. All her teachers love her and she doesn't get into trouble. I guess I must be doing something right.

 


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12-06-2012 at 9:41 AM
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acaudill75:

Well, my pediatrician was ok with it. She is growing like a weed, still in 95% for both height and weight, speaks in two different languages, memorizes whole stories when we read them to her from books, sings, dances, has beautiful teeth. All her teachers love her and she doesn't get into trouble. I guess I must be doing something right.

Easily one of the funniest responses I've read all day.

Congrats on your wonderbaby.  You are right... it absolutely is 100% because of you and everything you're doing.

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12-06-2012 at 9:49 AM
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acaudill75:

Well, my pediatrician was ok with it. She is growing like a weed, still in 95% for both height and weight, speaks in two different languages, memorizes whole stories when we read them to her from books, sings, dances, has beautiful teeth. All her teachers love her and she doesn't get into trouble. I guess I must be doing something right.

Easily one of the funniest responses I've read all day.

Congrats on your wonderbaby.  You are right... it absolutely is 100% because of you and everything you're doing.

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Seriously??? Who pissed in your guys' wheaties this morning. I gave my daughter 2% milk, and that makes me a monster? She still ate regular yogurt, regular cheese, regular everything. Nothing different except her milk. Get a life. I was offering up what I did. At the time, she was super chunky and I come from a chunky family. Excuse me for not wanting my child to grow up obese. And if I fed her fatty foods, and let her continue to grow chubbier, you would sneer down your nose that I was abusing her by letting her get fat. There is no winning with some people. Take a look at all that medical knowledge out there regarding childhood obesity and diabetes. And, yes, I will take some of the credit for my child being happy and well adjusted. Thank you.


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12-06-2012 at 10:14 AM
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acaudill75:

Well, my pediatrician was ok with it. She is growing like a weed, still in 95% for both height and weight, speaks in two different languages, memorizes whole stories when we read them to her from books, sings, dances, has beautiful teeth. All her teachers love her and she doesn't get into trouble. I guess I must be doing something right.

Easily one of the funniest responses I've read all day.

Congrats on your wonderbaby.  You are right... it absolutely is 100% because of you and everything you're doing.

A+.

LOL

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12-06-2012 at 10:27 AM
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acaudill75:
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acaudill75:

Well, my pediatrician was ok with it. She is growing like a weed, still in 95% for both height and weight, speaks in two different languages, memorizes whole stories when we read them to her from books, sings, dances, has beautiful teeth. All her teachers love her and she doesn't get into trouble. I guess I must be doing something right.

Easily one of the funniest responses I've read all day.

Congrats on your wonderbaby.  You are right... it absolutely is 100% because of you and everything you're doing.

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Seriously??? Who pissed in your guys' wheaties this morning. I gave my daughter 2% milk, and that makes me a monster? She still ate regular yogurt, regular cheese, regular everything. Nothing different except her milk. Get a life. I was offering up what I did. At the time, she was super chunky and I come from a chunky family. Excuse me for not wanting my child to grow up obese. And if I fed her fatty foods, and let her continue to grow chubbier, you would sneer down your nose that I was abusing her by letting her get fat. There is no winning with some people. Take a look at all that medical knowledge out there regarding childhood obesity and diabetes. And, yes, I will take some of the credit for my child being happy and well adjusted. Thank you.

It's a balancing of pro and con that you aren't getting.  Don't feed her fried food because it has no health benefits.  Whole milk DOES.  It's needed for healthy brain development.  See the difference? 


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12-06-2012 at 12:08 PM
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Well, what are we going to do about those lactose intolerant zombie children? Poor things won't be able to get into a good college, get a job or have intelligent conversations on the bump. I'd say that I didn't drink milk long past two years old, and I have a doctorate, but you would probably spin that around and try to prove your smug little point. So, whatever, to each his own. I'm sure my daughters will learn how to tie their shoes the same time as yours. They will also be able to see their shoes past their tenth birthday.


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12-06-2012 at 12:24 PM
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I would call your pedi and ask what the minimum they recommend. They will be able to base the parameters off your child's weight and growth.  My DS is a big boy and eats lots of table food. He started not finishing his bottles and is only taking 10-16 ounces per day.  I called the pedi and they acted like I was starving him.  A few minutes later they called back and said they looked at his chart and his growth curve is normal and as long as he is eating 3 meals a day plus 2 snacks, then 10-16 oz is fine.  I intend to do give only a bedtime bottle starting in the beginning of January.

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12-06-2012 at 12:48 PM
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acaudill75:

Well, what are we going to do about those lactose intolerant zombie children? Poor things won't be able to get into a good college, get a job or have intelligent conversations on the bump. I'd say that I didn't drink milk long past two years old, and I have a doctorate, but you would probably spin that around and try to prove your smug little point. So, whatever, to each his own. I'm sure my daughters will learn how to tie their shoes the same time as yours. They will also be able to see their shoes past their tenth birthday.

Clearly you are a very rational and non-dramatic human.


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acaudill75:

Well, what are we going to do about those lactose intolerant zombie children? Poor things won't be able to get into a good college, get a job or have intelligent conversations on the bump. I'd say that I didn't drink milk long past two years old, and I have a doctorate, but you would probably spin that around and try to prove your smug little point. So, whatever, to each his own. I'm sure my daughters will learn how to tie their shoes the same time as yours. They will also be able to see their shoes past their tenth birthday.

Clearly you are a very rational and non-dramatic human.

You're not the kindest, least sarcastic person yourself. Just sayin'. 


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12-07-2012 at 9:16 AM
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acaudill75:

Well, my pediatrician was ok with it. She is growing like a weed, still in 95% for both height and weight, speaks in two different languages, memorizes whole stories when we read them to her from books, sings, dances, has beautiful teeth. All her teachers love her and she doesn't get into trouble. I guess I must be doing something right.

Easily one of the funniest responses I've read all day.

Congrats on your wonderbaby.  You are right... it absolutely is 100% because of you and everything you're doing.

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 Idiot.

 What gives you the right to say ANYTHING about how someone is raising their child? If she wants to give her baby 2% milk, what is it to you? It's almost like your life sucks SO MUCH that you find entertainment in belittling someone who does something differently than you.

I am giving my 10 month old 2% milk instead of whole milk because he weighs over 30 lbs! And get this: I haven't even talked to my doctor about it! GASP! I just went ahead and did it because I felt that it was best for him. Can you imagine?!?!? And I probably will not mention it to my doctor at all! Because he sucks and won't give a crap what I am giving him!

Oh yeah, and since he is chunky, I have also downgraded him to light beer instead of full flavour. He protested at first but once he gets a buzz on, it doesn't seem to bother him.

Pfft.  


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12-07-2012 at 10:47 AM
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 Idiot.

What gives you the right to say ANYTHING about how someone is raising their child? If she wants to give her baby 2% milk, what is it to you? It's almost like your life sucks SO MUCH that you find entertainment in belittling someone who does something differently than you.

I am giving my 10 month old 2% milk instead of whole milk because he weighs over 30 lbs! And get this: I haven't even talked to my doctor about it! GASP! I just went ahead and did it because I felt that it was best for him. Can you imagine?!?!? And I probably will not mention it to my doctor at all! Because he sucks and won't give a crap what I am giving him!

Oh yeah, and since he is chunky, I have also downgraded him to light beer instead of full flavour. He protested at first but once he gets a buzz on, it doesn't seem to bother him.

Pfft.  

First of all... chillthefluckout. 

Secondly, the main point of a PUBLIC INTERNET FORUM ON PARENTING is to talk about the information we have received and experiences on raising kids.  So in every.single.solitary piece of research I've ever done, including talking to my kid's pedi and two other's at the practice, it was made abundantly clear that the benefits of whole milk for outweighed the benefits of lower fat milks.  Neural pathway development and all.  If your pedi said otherwise, then whoopty-freaking-doo... I don't actually give a fluck what you do with your kid.

And your logic that it's not someone else's place to comment on how they are raising their kid might hold true in real life, but again, this is a public forum on the internet... So if someone came on here and said they were going to feed their newborn solid foods?  Or add water to the bottle?  Or give them juice? Or blah blah blah... You think everyone is just going to be like... la-di-da it's your kid do whatever you want let's talk about puppies and rainbows?

But regarding the beer... that's good thinking on your part.


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 Idiot.


What gives you the right to say ANYTHING about how someone is raising their child? If she wants to give her baby 2% milk, what is it to you? It's almost like your life sucks SO MUCH that you find entertainment in belittling someone who does something differently than you.


I am giving my 10 month old 2% milk instead of whole milk because he weighs over 30 lbs! And get this: I haven't even talked to my doctor about it! GASP! I just went ahead and did it because I felt that it was best for him. Can you imagine?!?!? And I probably will not mention it to my doctor at all! Because he sucks and won't give a crap what I am giving him!


Oh yeah, and since he is chunky, I have also downgraded him to light beer instead of full flavour. He protested at first but once he gets a buzz on, it doesn't seem to bother him.


Pfft.  



First of all... chillthefluckout. 


Secondly, the main point of a PUBLIC INTERNET FORUM ON PARENTING is to talk about the information we have received and experiences on raising kids.  So in every.single.solitary piece of research I've ever done, including talking to my kid's pedi and two other's at the practice, it was made abundantly clear that the benefits of whole milk for outweighed the benefits of lower fat milks.  Neural pathway development and all.  If your pedi said otherwise, then whoopty-freaking-doo... I don't actually give a fluck what you do with your kid.


And your logic that it's not someone else's place to comment on how they are raising their kid might hold true in real life, but again, this is a public forum on the internet... So if someone came on here and said they were going to feed their newborn solid foods?  Or add water to the bottle?  Or give them juice? Or blah blah blah... You think everyone is just going to be like... la-di-da it's your kid do whatever you want let's talk about puppies and rainbows?


But regarding the beer... that's good thinking on your part.



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Bahahahaha...


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lvrunningirlie:
Interested in replies because I'm wondering the same thing... and I'm assuming a decrease in bottles means an increase in solids?

Yes, decrease in bottles does mean increas in solids.  I'm looking for some advice also.  DS was a very healthy eater and practically weaned himself with little effort from me.  DD seems to need more of a push and I'm wondering how to proceed this time around.  I'm also not sure the minimum amount of formula at this age... DS was still BFing at this age so no advice there.

I'm laughing to myself because this thread contains very little advice for the original poster.  I think some of the responses went a little overboard.  LOL.


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My opinion is u do what u think is best 4 ur baby 2 hell w everyone else's opinion! Seriously, giving ur baby 2 milk isn't going 2 hurt ur child anyone who thinks that is a moron! We all have a mother's intuition, listen 2 it and not other ppl. u will always know what is best 4 ur child, no one else! Warmest holiday wishes;
 
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 Idiot.

What gives you the right to say ANYTHING about how someone is raising their child? If she wants to give her baby 2% milk, what is it to you? It's almost like your life sucks SO MUCH that you find entertainment in belittling someone who does something differently than you.

I am giving my 10 month old 2% milk instead of whole milk because he weighs over 30 lbs! And get this: I haven't even talked to my doctor about it! GASP! I just went ahead and did it because I felt that it was best for him. Can you imagine?!?!? And I probably will not mention it to my doctor at all! Because he sucks and won't give a crap what I am giving him!

Oh yeah, and since he is chunky, I have also downgraded him to light beer instead of full flavour. He protested at first but once he gets a buzz on, it doesn't seem to bother him.

Pfft.  

First of all... chillthefluckout. 

Secondly, the main point of a PUBLIC INTERNET FORUM ON PARENTING is to talk about the information we have received and experiences on raising kids.  So in every.single.solitary piece of research I've ever done, including talking to my kid's pedi and two other's at the practice, it was made abundantly clear that the benefits of whole milk for outweighed the benefits of lower fat milks.  Neural pathway development and all.  If your pedi said otherwise, then whoopty-freaking-doo... I don't actually give a fluck what you do with your kid.

And your logic that it's not someone else's place to comment on how they are raising their kid might hold true in real life, but again, this is a public forum on the internet... So if someone came on here and said they were going to feed their newborn solid foods?  Or add water to the bottle?  Or give them juice? Or blah blah blah... You think everyone is just going to be like... la-di-da it's your kid do whatever you want let's talk about puppies and rainbows?

But regarding the beer... that's good thinking on your part.

Whore.

This has to be the dumbest response to a post ever.  Ever.


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Well, my pediatrician was ok with it. She is growing like a weed, still in 95% for both height and weight, speaks in two different languages, memorizes whole stories when we read them to her from books, sings, dances, has beautiful teeth. All her teachers love her and she doesn't get into trouble. I guess I must be doing something right.

Easily one of the funniest responses I've read all day.

Congrats on your wonderbaby.  You are right... it absolutely is 100% because of you and everything you're doing.

A+.

Seriously??? Who pissed in your guys' wheaties this morning. I gave my daughter 2% milk, and that makes me a monster? She still ate regular yogurt, regular cheese, regular everything. Nothing different except her milk. Get a life. I was offering up what I did. At the time, she was super chunky and I come from a chunky family. Excuse me for not wanting my child to grow up obese. And if I fed her fatty foods, and let her continue to grow chubbier, you would sneer down your nose that I was abusing her by letting her get fat. There is no winning with some people. Take a look at all that medical knowledge out there regarding childhood obesity and diabetes. And, yes, I will take some of the credit for my child being happy and well adjusted. Thank you.

It doesn't make you a monster--it just means you made a bad call.

http://www.med.umich.edu/yourchild/topics/feedbaby.htm

A child at 1 who is in the higher percentiles for weight isn't a problem and doesn't need to given lowfat products to somehow control her weight--that is insane. If you had a kid that was say 5 and was in 95th percentile for weight/10th for height, then yeah, you should probably consider altering her diet. Healthy fats (like in milk) isn't going to make your kid obese. An unbalanced diet with limited physical activity is what causes childhood obesity.

I doubt your child's accomplishments have to do with giving her 2% milk. Meeting some milestones early certainly doesn't mean you gave her the optimal nutrition for brain development either. There are kids in third world countries that survive and thrive on limited nutrition.

Please don't do this again to your second child. It's natural to make a mistake--but if you don't learn from your errors then you're just an idiot. Just because you found one doctor that found it ok doesn't make it so. There are a lot of doctors out there giving lousy advice and pedis are far from nutritionists.


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kelleynb28:

 Idiot.


What gives you the right to say ANYTHING about how someone is raising their child? If she wants to give her baby 2% milk, what is it to you? It's almost like your life sucks SO MUCH that you find entertainment in belittling someone who does something differently than you.


I am giving my 10 month old 2% milk instead of whole milk because he weighs over 30 lbs! And get this: I haven't even talked to my doctor about it! GASP! I just went ahead and did it because I felt that it was best for him. Can you imagine?!?!? And I probably will not mention it to my doctor at all! Because he sucks and won't give a crap what I am giving him!


Oh yeah, and since he is chunky, I have also downgraded him to light beer instead of full flavour. He protested at first but once he gets a buzz on, it doesn't seem to bother him.


Pfft.  



First of all... chillthefluckout. 


Secondly, the main point of a PUBLIC INTERNET FORUM ON PARENTING is to talk about the information we have received and experiences on raising kids.  So in every.single.solitary piece of research I've ever done, including talking to my kid's pedi and two other's at the practice, it was made abundantly clear that the benefits of whole milk for outweighed the benefits of lower fat milks.  Neural pathway development and all.  If your pedi said otherwise, then whoopty-freaking-doo... I don't actually give a fluck what you do with your kid.


And your logic that it's not someone else's place to comment on how they are raising their kid might hold true in real life, but again, this is a public forum on the internet... So if someone came on here and said they were going to feed their newborn solid foods?  Or add water to the bottle?  Or give them juice? Or blah blah blah... You think everyone is just going to be like... la-di-da it's your kid do whatever you want let's talk about puppies and rainbows?


But regarding the beer... that's good thinking on your part.


Whore.


This has to be the dumbest response to a post ever.  Ever.



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Well, my pediatrician was ok with it. She is growing like a weed, still in 95% for both height and weight, speaks in two different languages, memorizes whole stories when we read them to her from books, sings, dances, has beautiful teeth. All her teachers love her and she doesn't get into trouble. I guess I must be doing something right.

Easily one of the funniest responses I've read all day.

Congrats on your wonderbaby.  You are right... it absolutely is 100% because of you and everything you're doing.

A+.

Seriously??? Who pissed in your guys' wheaties this morning. I gave my daughter 2% milk, and that makes me a monster? She still ate regular yogurt, regular cheese, regular everything. Nothing different except her milk. Get a life. I was offering up what I did. At the time, she was super chunky and I come from a chunky family. Excuse me for not wanting my child to grow up obese. And if I fed her fatty foods, and let her continue to grow chubbier, you would sneer down your nose that I was abusing her by letting her get fat. There is no winning with some people. Take a look at all that medical knowledge out there regarding childhood obesity and diabetes. And, yes, I will take some of the credit for my child being happy and well adjusted. Thank you.

 

I Dont think i could ever switch cold turkey but in your defense my pedi told me that new studies show it doesn't matter what milk you give your child they still develop fine. Me being paranoid i'll probably still do whole though.


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