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12-10-2012 at 9:02 AM
ARS0805
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Vivelle Dot

Is everyone on these estrogen patches?  What is the estrogen supplementation for?  Why isn't it necessary for IUI?

Me: 28; DH: 35 1/2008 -- Started TTC
3/2009 -- FD discovered at 17 weeks
1/2011 -- Lap and HSG reveal Stage IV Endo and both tubes blocked.
4/2012 -- Consult with RE for IVF#1 -- All bloodwork and SA are normal -- Repeat HSG - SURPRISE! Both tubes are open.
May, June, August 2012 -- IUI#1-3 -- Letrozole + Bravelle + Ovidrel trigger = BFN
9/2012 -- Lap#2 to remove endo and Hysteroscopy

IVF#1 (Long Lupron) -- 12/6 ER - 20R 11F * 12/11 ET - Transferred 2 excellent blasts *
Beta #1 79.7 * Beta #2 240 * It's a GIRL!!

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12-10-2012 at 9:19 AM
lisaf40
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I am not sure if everyone is on them, but I have been. Estrogen and progesterone are both important parts of sustaining early pregnancy. My RE has had me on 2 dots every other day following ovulation during both IUI's and will do the same during this IVF cycle. They said I would stay on them during the whole first trimester.

TTC since: July 2011 Dx: DOR/ High FSH Me: 29 DH: 33 Medicated IUI Cycle #1 = BFN 9/3/12 Laparascopy/Hysteroscopy 9/13/12 Medicated IUI Cycle #2 = BFN 11/2/12 IVF Cancelled 11/7/12 due to low AFC IVF Cycle 12/2 
12-10-2012 at 9:40 AM
lesalyric
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My RE has me on them as well post-ER for IVF. I start them a week from ER and do two dots every other day. As to why, I don't know, I just assume the RE thinks they are needed to help sustain an early pregnancy.


TTC#1 since 1/2011
1/2012: Fertility workup including SA/HSG - no issues. DX: Unexplained
IUI#1 = BFN 7/2012
IUI#2 = BFN 8/2012
IVF#1 = BFP - ER 12/6, ET 12/11 - 20R, 15M, 14F - 2 transferred, 2 frozen
Betas: #1(9dp5dt)-50, #2(13dp5dt)-467, #3(16dp5dt)-839, #4(20dp5dt)-1825
Saw HB - 7w1d, missed m/c - 9w1d
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12-10-2012 at 9:41 AM
jschwind22
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I'm not on patches, but I'm pretty sure the progesterone suppositories that I start tonight have Estrogen in them.  I have no idea what it is for though!

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TTC #1 since February 2011
Me: 29 (high NK cells diagnosed 3/5/13)
DH: 28 (MFI low morph and motility diagnosed 5/8/12).
RE is recommending IVF but we want to start with IUI. DH was unwilling to pursue treatment until 7/21/12.
Cycle #21- Injects + IUI #1= BFFN
Cycle #22- HSG 9/21/12 all clear= BFFN
Cycle #23- Injects + IUI#2= BFFN
Cycle #24- IVF #1- ER 12/6/12 (14R, 11M, 9F), ET 12/9/12 transferred 2 day 3 embies
Beta #1 10dp3dt=3 (-). Beta #2 12dp3dt=6.6 (+). Beta #3 39.1 (+)
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Cycle #26- Diagnosed high NK cells 3/5/13. FET scheduled 3/20/13- CANCELLED- lining issues
Cycle #27- Starting Trental for 3 months for new FET protocol. Natural cycles until FET in August
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12-10-2012 at 9:56 AM
baker916
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I'm on the vivelle patches starting day 9 after ER (2 every other day).  Based on what I've read, the ER process can mess with your body's ability to produce progesterone and estrogen normally (no natural release of eggs so the corpus luteum can be not normal), which means they want to make sure you are getting adequate hormones from the suppositories and patches.  That's why you don't always need them for IUI since the egg releases normally (unless you have low 7DPO progesterone anyway).

TTC #1 7/10, Me (31)- Dx DOR (AMH 0.6); DH (30)- normal
BFP on Cycle #8. Natural M/C at ~8 weeks
IUI #1 and #2 (8/12, 9/12)- 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel = BFNs
IVF #1 (EPP) 13R/10M/9F, 5DT 1-4AA blast, beta #1-148, beta #2-322, 5 frosties!
3/18/13 - It's a Girl!
4/18/13 - A/S- baby looks perfect, but partial placenta previa
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12-10-2012 at 10:14 AM
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baker916:
I'm on the vivelle patches starting day 9 after ER (2 every other day).  Based on what I've read, the ER process can mess with your body's ability to produce progesterone and estrogen normally (no natural release of eggs so the corpus luteum can be not normal), which means they want to make sure you are getting adequate hormones from the suppositories and patches.  That's why you don't always need them for IUI since the egg releases normally (unless you have low 7DPO progesterone anyway).

This is what my RE said.


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November 2012 - IVF w/ ICSI #1; 11/28/12 - ER 12 eggs! 11 fertilized! 12/3/12 - ET - transferred 1 AA Blastocyst
 
12-10-2012 at 10:14 AM
ctnl81
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I'm just doing PiO at this point - no estrogen.  Now I'm curious as to why I'm not.



married 7/21/07; ttc since 2/2011
me 31, minor endo; him 32, minor MFI
laparoscopy 5/12; uterine septum corrected
failed IUIs 6/12, 8/12, 9/12
IVF #1 - started stimming 11/24, ER on 12/4, ET on 12/9, beta at 11dp5dt - 417! BFFP!



 
12-10-2012 at 11:30 AM
megs3084
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I start the patches weds1 week past er i started progesterone the day after er. Theyre switching me to crinone gel though cause apparently my cervix doesnt like endometrin.


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Me:28 DH:28 TTC since 1/11 Dx: unexplained IF/early DOR
Feb'12- Clomid/TI with CD3 &21 labs(normal)& SA-count 6mil/ml,morph/motil OK-BFN
April'12 Ultrasounds,HSG -clear, slight acurate uterus
5/14 IUI #1-50 mg clomid-post wash total motile count 19.3 prometrium 2dpiui= BFN
6/11-IUI #2-100 mg clomid & prometrium post wash count total motile 17.5 = BFN
7/6 IUI#3 with 100 mg clomid, estridiol, prometrium. post wash total motile count 23.3 = BFN
8/30IVF#1 BCPs, Follistim, Menopur,Ganerelix,Novarel.
ER 9/11-8R, 7M, 5F.
ET 9/14 2 embies transferred. 1 10cell Grade 4, 1 8cell Grade 4. No frosties. BFN
IVF#2 BCPs, Follistim, Menopur, Ganerelix, Novarel, Baby Aspirin
ER 12/5-16R, 12M, 8F!
ET 12/10 5dt! 1 fully expanded blast & 1 early blast. No frosties. BFN
2/13- Saline sono revealed a polyp. All additional labwork coming back normal. Genetic screen revealed DH has MTHFR deficiency & I am a carrier for it.
3/13 hysteroscopy & polypectomy
3/27 Began working with Reproductive Immunologist Dr. Kwak-Kim. Found High NK cells, High DHEAs, slight hypothyroidism, tendency toward blood clots (High PAI-1)Began synthroid & metformin 4/19.
Cycling in July

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12-10-2012 at 11:41 AM
ARS0805
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baker916:
I'm on the vivelle patches starting day 9 after ER (2 every other day).  Based on what I've read, the ER process can mess with your body's ability to produce progesterone and estrogen normally (no natural release of eggs so the corpus luteum can be not normal), which means they want to make sure you are getting adequate hormones from the suppositories and patches.  That's why you don't always need them for IUI since the egg releases normally (unless you have low 7DPO progesterone anyway).

 This makes sense.  I had just never asked for an explaination.  I started Crinone two days after ER and two vivelle patches three days after ER.  I will continue Crinone until I am told to stop, but I will stop the patches on beta day no matter what the outcome is.  So interesting different RE's protocols...


Me: 28; DH: 35 1/2008 -- Started TTC
3/2009 -- FD discovered at 17 weeks
1/2011 -- Lap and HSG reveal Stage IV Endo and both tubes blocked.
4/2012 -- Consult with RE for IVF#1 -- All bloodwork and SA are normal -- Repeat HSG - SURPRISE! Both tubes are open.
May, June, August 2012 -- IUI#1-3 -- Letrozole + Bravelle + Ovidrel trigger = BFN
9/2012 -- Lap#2 to remove endo and Hysteroscopy

IVF#1 (Long Lupron) -- 12/6 ER - 20R 11F * 12/11 ET - Transferred 2 excellent blasts *
Beta #1 79.7 * Beta #2 240 * It's a GIRL!!

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