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12-19-2012 at 1:23 AM
jordanm24
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frustrating cycles

Hello!

Just wanted to introduce myself, I'm new to the site.  My DH & I are TTC baby #1 & I'm very excited!  I was on BCP for about 10 years, & just went off at the beginning of August (2012), & TTC since September 2012.  So far I've only had 2 cycles (although I'm 3 weeks into my 3rd cycle - still no ovulation according to my chart), & the first 2 cycles were 7 & 9 weeks long!! :(  I didn't start charting til the end of the 2nd cycle, but I'm feeling frustrated wondering if I'm even ovulating at all, because of the irregularity & length of the cycles.  I know we're "trying" but technically you can't even try if you're not ovulating! :(  It's been about 5 months since going off the BC, & I know some bodies just take awhile to adjust & resume ovulation, but I'm just frustrated.  If after this cycle, my chart doesn't show any ovulation, I'm going to talk to my dr about maybe a medication to stimulate ovulation.  Anyone else have their body taking forever to get back on track after BCP?


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12-19-2012 at 5:13 AM
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Yes, many of us. This topic comes up frequently.

I stopped BCPs at the end of July. My first cycle was 61 days, second was 44 days, and the last one was 37 days. I'm currently on CD6 of cycle 4. So, my cycles have been pretty irregular as well but seem to be heading in the right direction.

I started charting after the first month with no AF and it has been really helpful. I was able to see that I did ovulate during each cycle, it just happened late. I also started using OPKs during the second cycle to give me an idea of whether my body was gearing up for it or not. That may be something you could consider as well.

Good luck!

12-19-2012 at 5:52 AM
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My natural cycles off BCPs last about 40 something days or longer. With temping and using OPKs, I found out I ovulate around cycle day 30. Hang in there!


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12-19-2012 at 5:56 AM
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jordanm24:

Hello!

Just wanted to introduce myself, I'm new to the site.  My DH & I are TTC baby #1 & I'm very excited!  I was on BCP for about 10 years, & just went off at the beginning of August (2012), & TTC since September 2012.  So far I've only had 2 cycles (although I'm 3 weeks into my 3rd cycle - still no ovulation according to my chart), & the first 2 cycles were 7 & 9 weeks long!! :(  I didn't start charting til the end of the 2nd cycle, but I'm feeling frustrated wondering if I'm even ovulating at all, because of the irregularity & length of the cycles.  I know we're "trying" but technically you can't even try if you're not ovulating! :(  It's been about 5 months since going off the BC, & I know some bodies just take awhile to adjust & resume ovulation, but I'm just frustrated.  If after this cycle, my chart doesn't show any ovulation, I'm going to talk to my dr about maybe a medication to stimulate ovulation.  Anyone else have their body taking forever to get back on track after BCP?

Just my opinion, but you have not been trying that long; as long as you are younger than 35, most OBGYNs will tell you to try for a year. It does take about 6 months to regulate-up to a year. You just sound like you have longer cycles, but not anovulary cycles. I know it is frustrating... I'm on my 5th month of trying for #2.


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12-19-2012 at 6:44 AM
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jordanm24:

Hello!

Just wanted to introduce myself, I'm new to the site.  My DH & I are TTC baby #1 & I'm very excited!  I was on BCP for about 10 years, & just went off at the beginning of August (2012), & TTC since September 2012.  So far I've only had 2 cycles (although I'm 3 weeks into my 3rd cycle - still no ovulation according to my chart), & the first 2 cycles were 7 & 9 weeks long!! :(  I didn't start charting til the end of the 2nd cycle, but I'm feeling frustrated wondering if I'm even ovulating at all, because of the irregularity & length of the cycles.  I know we're "trying" but technically you can't even try if you're not ovulating! :(  It's been about 5 months since going off the BC, & I know some bodies just take awhile to adjust & resume ovulation, but I'm just frustrated.  If after this cycle, my chart doesn't show any ovulation, I'm going to talk to my dr about maybe a medication to stimulate ovulation.  Anyone else have their body taking forever to get back on track after BCP?

You have only been off BC since aug, and you want fertiliy meds ?!?!? SMH... Wannabe infertile.


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12-19-2012 at 8:51 AM
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It can take some time for your cycles to regulate when coming off BC. Long cycles do not necessarily mean you aren't ovulating. Charting your BBT is the only way to confirm that so it's good you're starting. If you go more than 60 days without a period, you can call your doctor to see about getting a prescription for Provera to jump start your cycle.

There is no reason to start fertility meds after only 5 months of trying. Give your body some time to regulate and find out if you're ovulating before you start worrying about fertility drugs.


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12-19-2012 at 8:57 AM
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talon1226:

It can take some time for your cycles to regulate when coming off BC. Long cycles do not necessarily mean you aren't ovulating. Charting your BBT is the only way to confirm that so it's good you're starting. If you go more than 60 days without a period, you can call your doctor to see about getting a prescription for Provera to jump start your cycle.

There is no reason to start fertility meds after only 5 months of trying. Give your body some time to regulate and find out if you're ovulating before you start worrying about fertility drugs.

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12-19-2012 at 9:03 AM
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jordanm24:

I'm going to talk to my dr about maybe a medication to stimulate ovulation. 

Are you out of your fuuuucking mind?

No. You do not want those meds. Sorry, I told someone I'd be nicer but that's BS to go on fertility meds this soon. Do not, NOT wish that shiz on yourself. Just don't.




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12-19-2012 at 9:08 AM
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Welcome and good luck!

To the ladies who've been here longer: If she's truly not ovulating, what are other options she could consider before Clomid, etc?



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12-19-2012 at 9:10 AM
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krptcmschfmkr128:

Welcome and good luck!

To the ladies who've been here longer: If she's truly not ovulating, what are other options she could consider before Clomid, etc?

Patience, especially if she just came off BCP in August.

Your cycles may not be 28 days after coming off BCP. It's not a good idea to start worrying about infertility at this point. It just sounds like longer cycles.




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DX with Non-IR PCOS in October 2012.
Missing RIGHT tube due to a prior surgery to remove cyst-zilla (40 lbs!) at age 12.
HSG showed tube was blocked - cleared by dye. DON'T DO CLOMID WITHOUT AN HSG!
Cycle #8 with 50mg Clomid & TI = BFN
Cycle #9 with 50mg Clomid & TI = No response.
Cycle #10 with Clomid 100mg + Ovidrel shot = BFN
Cycle #11 is a break cycle. Cycle #12 is a break cycle. (The break so nice, she did it twice!) 
12-19-2012 at 9:15 AM
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CLECyclist:
krptcmschfmkr128:

Welcome and good luck!

To the ladies who've been here longer: If she's truly not ovulating, what are other options she could consider before Clomid, etc?

Patience, especially if she just came off BCP in August.

Your cycles may not be 28 days after coming off BCP. It's not a good idea to start worrying about infertility at this point. It just sounds like longer cycles.

So there's a good possibility even if she determines she's truly not ovulating right now because of having been on BC, she could start O'ing again naturally?

Trying to dumb it down as much as possible for OP. 



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12-19-2012 at 9:16 AM
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jordanm24:

I'm going to talk to my dr about maybe a medication to stimulate ovulation. 

Are you out of your fuuuucking mind?

No. You do not want those meds. Sorry, I told someone I'd be nicer but that's BS to go on fertility meds this soon. Do not, NOT wish that shiz on yourself. Just don't.

This.

IF is emotionally and financially draining.  Fertility drugs can have serious side effects that can cause permenant damage if not prescribed/taken properly.  They are not something you just go to the doctor and ask for (although many OBs will prescribe them without thinking twice).  Before you start fertility drugs you need to have testing done, some of which is slightly invasive.  Oh and unless you are really lucky and have insurance that covers IF (most don't) you will pay thousands of dollars OOP for testing and then thousands more for treatment.  None of which guarantees that you will get a baby at the end of all of it.  OP, does this really sound like the road you want to go down after just a few months of TTC?

I will never understand why people seem to want to have IF issues.





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12-19-2012 at 9:22 AM
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krptcmschfmkr128:

So there's a good possibility even if she determines she's truly not ovulating right now because of having been on BC, she could start O'ing again naturally?

Trying to dumb it down as much as possible for OP. 

Except she has no reason to think she isn't ovulating other than a few long cycles right off BC. Charting your BBT tells you if you're ovulating. Cycle length does not. And yes, her cycles could regulate on their own. 

I feel like you're trying to dumb it down for yourself since you're the one who keeps asking the questions.  


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12-19-2012 at 9:23 AM
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krptcmschfmkr128:

So there's a good possibility even if she determines she's truly not ovulating right now because of having been on BC, she could start O'ing again naturally?

Trying to dumb it down as much as possible for OP. 

She's not even NOT ovulating necessarily, she's having long cycles. When you're used to having cycles like clockwork on BCP it's a bit of a mindfsck. My first post-BCP cycle was 42 days.  Not everyone evens out right away, or a longer cycle could be HER new "normal".

OP does not need to force ovulation. As Twinkie said, if you're going to do Clomid you need a LOT of testing, some of which is expensive and potentially painful. It is not an exercise/process I would personally wish on anyone. Impatience isn't an infertility diagnosis. I generally hate when people toss that around, but things aren't like what OP is accustomed to, and it's freaking her out a bit.

I get that it's frustrating when things aren't going the way you want, but not everyone has a 28 day cycle. It's early in the game for her, way early.




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DX with Non-IR PCOS in October 2012.
Missing RIGHT tube due to a prior surgery to remove cyst-zilla (40 lbs!) at age 12.
HSG showed tube was blocked - cleared by dye. DON'T DO CLOMID WITHOUT AN HSG!
Cycle #8 with 50mg Clomid & TI = BFN
Cycle #9 with 50mg Clomid & TI = No response.
Cycle #10 with Clomid 100mg + Ovidrel shot = BFN
Cycle #11 is a break cycle. Cycle #12 is a break cycle. (The break so nice, she did it twice!) 
12-19-2012 at 9:25 AM
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krptcmschfmkr128:

So there's a good possibility even if she determines she's truly not ovulating right now because of having been on BC, she could start O'ing again naturally?

Trying to dumb it down as much as possible for OP. 

She's not even NOT ovulating necessarily, she's having long cycles. When you're used to having cycles like clockwork on BCP it's a bit of a mindfsck. My first post-BCP cycle was 42 days.  Not everyone evens out right away, or a longer cycle could be more normal.

OP does not need to force ovulation. As Twinkie said, if you're going to do Clomid you need a LOT of testing, some of which is expensive and potentially painful. It is not an exercise/process I would personally wish on anyone. Impatience isn't an infertility diagnosis. I generally hate when people toss that around, but things aren't like what OP is accustomed to, and it's freaking her out a bit.

I get that it's frustrating when things aren't going the way you want, but not everyone has a 28 day cycle. It's early in the game for her, way early.

I know, I was just looking for an answer if, after temping, she finds she's truly not ovulating, and if there were other options she could consider first (PCOS, endo, etc).

I get how frustrating it can be. I went from 35 day cycles to 50 day cycles post BC after DD. 



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12-21-2012 at 12:19 AM
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spacepotatoes:

Yes, many of us. This topic comes up frequently.

I stopped BCPs at the end of July. My first cycle was 61 days, second was 44 days, and the last one was 37 days. I'm currently on CD6 of cycle 4. So, my cycles have been pretty irregular as well but seem to be heading in the right direction.

I started charting after the first month with no AF and it has been really helpful. I was able to see that I did ovulate during each cycle, it just happened late. I also started using OPKs during the second cycle to give me an idea of whether my body was gearing up for it or not. That may be something you could consider as well.

Good luck!

 

Thanks, this was helpful to hear!  Especially that ovulation is still happening for you, even with the long cycles.  That is honestly what I'm most curious about, as long as I end up ovulating, I will not worry about the cycles being long.  I'll find out soon with the charting!  Good luck to you as well! ;)


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12-21-2012 at 2:05 PM
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jordanm24:

Just my opinion, but you have not been trying that long; as long as you are younger than 35, most OBGYNs will tell you to try for a year. It does take about 6 months to regulate-up to a year. You just sound like you have longer cycles, but not anovulary cycles. I know it is frustrating... I'm on my 5th month of trying for #2.

 Thanks for being supportive!  Yes I'm hoping they are just long cycles, & not anovulatory, like you were saying.  Honestly as long as I'm ovulating that's all I care about!  Well, I will find out soon!  And if it turns out I'm NOT ovulating, I would def not pursue medication unless my obgyn recommended it, but I figure I will at least talk to her about it & see what she recommends at that point.


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12-21-2012 at 2:46 PM
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Thanks to those of you who were supportive.  To the rest of you, I'm kind of shocked, honestly.  I thought this site was supposed to be a SUPPORT for people who are TTC, not a way to put them on blast & tell them how stupid you think they are.  It's hard enough to talk about TTC in the first place, because it's a sensitive issue, & really the only reason I joined this site at all was to have a place to share my feelings & frustrations about the process & get SUPPORT, because so many people on here can understand what it's like.  Well I gotta say, most of the responses I read did not feel supportive, & actually just upset me, which I don't need right now.  The fact that people would say things like I must "want to be infertile" is just beyond me.  Really??  F that...seriously.  The fact that I've considered "talking" to my doctor after this cycle at the 6 month mark, "IF" my chart shows I'm still not ovulating, & "maybe" seeing if she recommends a medication to help the process makes me crazy?  Hello people, it's just a conversation, & since my dr. is the expert I think that at least consulting with her would actually be the smart thing to do.  And btw that's what is recommended on this site, & other things I've read as well.  And hey, if she tells me to wait til a year & check back with her, I'm fine with that, but I want to at least communicate with her on the subject.  Anyway the level of rudeness on here is really irritating, esp. for people who are all dealing with this issue I'd think you could be more understanding. 

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12-21-2012 at 4:03 PM
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When you say chart are you checking your bbt?  Can you link to your chart?  If you haven't already you may want to check out fertilityfriend.com as well as the newbie link at the top of the page.

 

If your cycles last more than 60 days go see your doctor, they can prescribe something to kickstart a new cycle.

 

If you are getting a period you are more than likely ovulating.

 

The general rule of them for IF testing is see your doctor after you have been trying for one year, 6 months if you are over 35.  

 

Despite what we were told as teenagers, getting pregnant sometimes takes a while. 


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12-21-2012 at 5:41 PM
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yes, I'm charting my BBT, as well as CF on fertilityfriend.com.  Also I've read a lot about the female body & the whole reproductive process (from "what to expect before you're expecting" as well as "Taking charge of your fertility" - AMAZING book!), so I know that getting a period doesn't always indicate ovulation, it could be estrogen breakthrough/withdrawal bleeding as well.  Good thing is, I will find out soon from the BBT charting if I'm ovulating or not, then I will go from there.  So far since going off BC my cycles have been 50 days, 65 days (at which point my obgyn did blood tests - came out fine), and the current cycle is 25 days so far, so we'll see.  My concern is ovulation, not the length of the cycles.  I know the rule is "trying for a year", the only thing is if you're not ovulating, you can't even technically "try", so that's what my concern would be.  It's hard to feel like you can't even be legitimately trying, when you want to be.  But hopefully I will ovulate! Most days I'm at peace, just some days the waiting is harder.

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12-21-2012 at 7:35 PM
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I think you need to temp for at least one full cycle before you even begin to worry about whether you are ovulating or not. It is more likely that you are having long cycles than it is you aren't ovulating. Keep temping and be patient.

It can honestly take a year for your body to sort itself out post BC.

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