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12-23-2012 at 12:30 AM
JMC11511
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A vent of sorts

Some may remember some pretty serious issues going on with my 16 year old niece. She was released from the treatment facility last week and within a few days her Mom called and told me she had another panic attack. She did not cut but she told her Mom she felt like she was getting worse. I encouraged Mom to tell the psychiatrist that at their appointment the next day. I do not know whether she did. In talking with the Mom she asked if we could spend some time with my nephews 12 and 8 this weekend. I told her Sunday would be good for us and asked her to let us know where they would be and what time to pick them up/drop them back off etc. She said ok. That was Monday.

On Wednesday, BIL called DH and said that the younger nephew called and said they were coming on Sunday and he was excited. I immediately called Mom to work out details and got no reply. No reply until today Sat, where she snottily informed me that they are about an hour away from our house and she "can't bring them to us." The problem with that was that we are spending time with my brother who is home for Christmas from out of state. I am pretty sure that the kids were up there before today, just based on the logistics of the whole situation. She couldn't have called and told us this so we could have planned accordingly? As it turns out, DH drove all the way up there from my parents house almost a 2 hr trip altogether and is bringing them home to spend the night with us, go to church in the morning, and then spend time with their Dad. I am assuming he will have to take them all the way back up there tomorrow. It's just so frustrating because this has always been her pattern of behavior. Complain that the kids don't get to see us, say how hard everything is for her and them, and then make it impossible to actually see them or spend time with them, ignore any and all suggestions or assistance, and act really ungrateful when we attempt to do anything. It's just a sucky situation and my heart breaks for those kids.

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12-23-2012 at 6:37 AM
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I have been keeping up with your niece, hoping things start turning around for her soon, seems like some kids just don't have a chance. Sorry your SIL is so difficult, just makes everything hard.

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12-23-2012 at 8:41 AM
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I don't know the whole story but I think that you need to cut your SIL some slack here. Yeah, she should have been more organized and communicative with your family but if she is dealing with one of her children going through a major issue, her head is probably all sorts of cloudy. Her first priority is probably figuring things out with that situation and she's most likely very stressed which is why she's snapping at others. It's great that you took the nephews for a while and I'm sure that the mom appreciates it whether she vocalizes it or not right now.
12-23-2012 at 10:16 AM
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From the last post to this one I had hoped SIL would have opened her eyes a little bit that she really needs help, not just her daughter, but it doesn't seem so.

Have you or DH talked to your niece? Obviously I wouldn't mention directly to HER the offer that you made to her mother before, but letting her know directly that you guys are there if she needs you gives her another outlet, and possibly a reprieve from her mother, I know in my situation my mom being so on my back directly after finding out lead to an increase in anxiety and self destructive behavior, but there is no telling a mother to "back off", so having someone else to turn to that I could vent, especially ABOUT the breathing down my neck, with no judgement, was a HUGE help, and it gave me the courage to have more open conversations with my mother as time went on. 

I had been hoping for an update, and I'm glad that she's still seeing someone. I just wish/hope SIL does the same for herself.


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12-23-2012 at 10:38 AM
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Rink08:
I don't know the whole story but I think that you need to cut your SIL some slack here. Yeah, she should have been more organized and communicative with your family but if she is dealing with one of her children going through a major issue, her head is probably all sorts of cloudy. Her first priority is probably figuring things out with that situation and she's most likely very stressed which is why she's snapping at others. It's great that you took the nephews for a while and I'm sure that the mom appreciates it whether she vocalizes it or not right now.


I get what you're saying. It's more about the pattern if behavior up to this point. She and BIL split several years ago after a volatile 10 year marriage full of verbal abuse on both sides, alcoholism on his part, and cheating on both sides. The kids have seen way too much of all of it. DH and I through this whole situation with my niece have been offering to help in any way we can, including taking my niece into our home for a while to provide her with some stability. SIL says she has made that offer to my niece and my niece is not comfortable with that. We have told my niece in the past and since this recent situation that she is welcome to call, text or come to us any time. But the fact of the matter is, SIL uses my niece as a babysitter for her three little brothers. Which is part of what has triggered this anxiety and self harming in my niece. She feels so much responsibility for her brothers and doesn't want to burden her Mom. Those are her words.

I think what is so frustrating is that despite all of our offers and all of our efforts, SIL continues to refuse our help. But then will call and complain that the kids miss us or want to see us or need something. We can't always drop everything and go get them, we have our child and our family, but if she gives us a specific something that needs to happen we will gladly accommodate that. For example, this is how the conversation went earlier in the week:
"The boys would like to see you, let me know when would be a good time."
"Awesome! Sunday would probably be better for us, P can pick them up at this time."
"Well....I don't know...I don't know where we will be...I'm not sure what my schedule will be..."
"Ok, well, will Sunday work?"
"Yeah, Sunday is good. But I have to talk to so and so about watching the kids."
"Ok...how about you call me and let me know by Wednesday where they will be and what time P can pick them up?"
"Ok yeah I can do that."
And then I did not hear from her until last night. I know there is a lot going on. But she doesn't seem to be able to verbalize exactly what she needs us to do and everything we offer is met with a bunch of excuses about why that won't work.

The point is, the situation sucks. It just sucks.

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12-23-2012 at 7:35 PM
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Rink08:
I don't know the whole story but I think that you need to cut your SIL some slack here. Yeah, she should have been more organized and communicative with your family but if she is dealing with one of her children going through a major issue, her head is probably all sorts of cloudy. Her first priority is probably figuring things out with that situation and she's most likely very stressed which is why she's snapping at others. It's great that you took the nephews for a while and I'm sure that the mom appreciates it whether she vocalizes it or not right now.

If I could find a linky to JMC's other posts I would. The SIL does not deserve to be cut any slack. She ignored signs that her teenage daughter needed help for way too long. It is definitely a pattern with her.

 @JMC I'm sorry your niece didn't end up staying with you guys. I really think it would have been the best for her but at least you all offered. It seems that you guys keep going out of the way for them and that's admirable. I really hope your niece starts doing better. Keep us updated.


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12-23-2012 at 8:16 PM
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I haven't been following the story, but I know how difficult custodial situations can be.  That has to be really hard on everyone.  I'm sorry!

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