Get The Bump digital magazine >

tools: Pregnancy Calendar | Baby Namer | Gender Chart | How Big is Baby?

community

all boards


birth clubs


nest boards


my blog

my photos

my boards


200+ Easy Weeknight Meals!

Green living: Eco-friendly tips & tricks!

< Previous topic | Next topic >

All Boards > 3rd Trimester

Sort:
01-01-2013 at 4:19 PM
Jennifer_4...
Not Ranked
Joined on 01-09-2008
4 Posts
156 Points
Jennifer_4_Jesus123 is not online. Last active: 03-24-2013, 12:34 AMNewbie

First child born during cold and flu season

I am 37 weeks pregnant with my first child. I have heard many stories about how parents are usually much more up tight with their first child and then lighten up as they go along. I am writing about flu season. I live in Washington where we are having a whooping cough epidemic. It is so bad that doctors and nurses are turning away family visitors from entering the maternity floor if they don't have their TDaP vaccine. I, however, am having a home birth (so we control who comes and goes).

My husband and I agreed that it would be best if everyone wanting to visit or hold her get their flu shot and whooping cough vaccine. The problem with that is it seems to have upset a lot of people and now they are trying to talk us out of it. They use reasoning like, "I never got the flu shot and my kids never got it." or, "people who get the flu shot usually get the flu!" It makes me really upset that they are trying to undermind me. I do want people to hold and visit her after she is born, but considering how many people who are sick like to get really close to me and spread their germs, I don't think it's a good idea if she can't get vaccinated for at least 6 weeks. I have already been sick twice during my pregnancy and I don't want that to happen to her. What should I do? How do I nicely tell to step down, that she is my daughter and I want what's best for her... even if they don't think it is?

 Thanks for your help!

 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 4:35 PM
RiverSong8...
Not Ranked
Joined on 06-09-2012
1,818 Posts
30,546 Points
RiverSong82 is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 6:43 PMBronze

We've only asked the grandparents and my brother to get the flu and Dtap vaccines because they will be around our daughter regularly. These are people that will be watching her, so that's why we asked. They all agreed, and some even had them done already.

For other people, I will just ask that they stay away if they feel sick/are sick and wash their hands before holding/touching the baby.

FWIW, I don't buy the "I don't get the shot, and I never get sick" or "people who get the flu shot get the flu" stuff. That's crap IMO. But, I also know that I can't ask my friends and extended family to get these shots.That's their decision.

Talk to your future child's pediatrician about what he/she recommends.

 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 4:39 PM
ArmyWife11...
Not Ranked
Joined on 05-01-2012
204 Posts
3,447 Points
ArmyWife114 is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 2:04 PMNewbie
We were up front with people.  DH and I told our respective parents/siblings that they would not be holding DS if they weren't up to date on their flu shot and their TDaP.  My mom pitched a fit and as much as I love my mother, my answer was "Look, our kid, our rules."  We explained that our county in Kansas was having a whooping cough epidemic and that the flu was going around our neighborhood like crazy.  Eventually they all came around and got their shots, but there griping at first.

If it's important to you, put your foot down and stick to your guns.
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 4:40 PM
Kingston54
Not Ranked
Joined on 04-24-2009
9,889 Posts
27,851 Points
Kingston54 is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 11:26 AMGold

It's your choice and don't let anyone sway you.  You get to decide.  I will tell you that my DS was born in cold/flu season (no whooping cough epidemic though) and I had the tDAP in the hospital and the flu shot in the fall.  DS also had the tDAP and the flu shot.  We asked MIL and FIL to consider getting the tDAP (they already had the flu shot) and they were happy to do so since if we needed anyone to watch DS, it would be MIL in their house.

I wasn't worried about the other people coming to visit for a short period of time.  We made sure visits were kept to a minimum because it was just too hard with a new baby/breastfeeding/etc.  We kept sanitizer out and people were more than agreeable to wash their hands.

Talk to your pediatrician too - ours was very helpful.  She told us to just avoid large/crowded places.
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 4:49 PM
Jennifer_4...
Not Ranked
Joined on 01-09-2008
4 Posts
156 Points
Jennifer_4_Jesus123 is not online. Last active: 03-24-2013, 12:34 AMNewbie
Thanks! We have told people that it is their choice to get the shots or not. We are not forcing it on people as much as they think we are. The request was to our close family and friends who would be seeing her a lot (vs. people at church we only see once a week). On top of it only applying to close friends and family, it was mainly for people who want to be in our house and/or hold her (for the first couple months). So, we understand that taking her to church or out to the store is a risk, it's not our environment to control. However, when they throw a fit because we won't let them in our apartment or hold her for the first couple of months because they havn't been vaccinated, they make me feel like I don't know what I am talking about. The incubation periods are usually before symptoms start showing, and therefore, they can have it without knowing it and get her sick.
 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 5:07 PM
Chocodoxie...
Not Ranked
Joined on 01-29-2012
1,246 Posts
10,931 Points
Chocodoxies is not online. Last active: 05-13-2013, 7:09 PMBronze

On my OB's advice and that of our pediatrician all family members that want to see and hold our DD before she has her own TDAP and flu shot have to be vaccinated. I am in no way telling them what they HAVE to do, I am telling them what we require for them to come in our home and hold my new, totally unvaccinated and therefore unprotected newborn. She comes first. My MIL has been told this for three months. I am due tomorrow, and last night DH asked if she had her shot and she said no. He was honest, "that sucks, because you have to have it two weeks before you can see her". She was upset so he reminded her that he told her three months ago. She couldn't really argue with that. 

Do I feel badly, sure! I want everyone to enjoy and come see our newest addition and I am bummed that his mother won't see her for quite some time now, but we put that warning out there full well in advance. Don't feel guilty for being a parent and protecting your LO. That is exactly your job.  
Lost but never forgotten <3 :
1st BFP 2/8/06 m/c @ 12 weeks;
2nd BFP 2/9/07 w/ Clomid; DD (Monica Caroline) born 11/16/07;
3rd BFP 3/25/11 w/ injections m/c @ 5 weeks;
4th BFP 8/3/11 w/ injections diagnosed blighted ovum;
5th BFP 1/20/12 m/c @ 9 weeks;
6th BFP 4/27/12 Praying for our rainbow
Lilypie First Birthday tickers Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers Daisypath Anniversary tickers 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 6:06 PM
sbevmc09
Not Ranked
Joined on 04-09-2008
Ohio
6,371 Posts
89,049 Points
sbevmc09 is online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 7:17 PMGold

Here's the thing, it's your kid and you need to make the decision that you feel is best for your child and your family.  This isn't going to be the last time you have to set boundaries.  So, set them, inform people (politely) and then stick to them.  If people have a problem with it that's unfortunate, but it is what it is.

FWIW, I'm not comfortable asking people to vaccinate themselves to see my baby.  I don't feel like the efficacy of the vaccines in question are worth it to try to force them on others, but that's JMO.  You're still going to need to take precautions because they're not anywhere near 100% effective so don't assume that just because people are vaccinated that they're not going to spread the flu (or any of the other viruses that circulate this time of year that present the exact same way) or Pertussis.  You have to do what you are comfortable with though, that's what's important.
photo 40aebcba-1d2e-4e78-8251-3990c3268432_zps1c88178f.jpg   photo 64bf363d-3af0-4dcc-b880-c06326daa418_zps78d8d389.jpg
*My Blog*
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker

photo 0cc607b9-4233-4842-8175-d093f8f92ca8_zps7cc00875.jpg
16/50 Read

my read shelf:
Stephanie's book recommendations, liked quotes, book clubs, book trivia, book lists (read shelf) 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 6:11 PM
Mitsya
Not Ranked
Joined on 11-16-2006
183 Posts
3,318 Points
Mitsya is not online. Last active: 05-15-2013, 5:16 PMNewbie
Chocodoxies:

On my OB's advice and that of our pediatrician all family members that want to see and hold our DD before she has her own TDAP and flu shot have to be vaccinated. I am in no way telling them what they HAVE to do, I am telling them what we require for them to come in our home and hold my new, totally unvaccinated and therefore unprotected newborn. She comes first. My MIL has been told this for three months. I am due tomorrow, and last night DH asked if she had her shot and she said no. He was honest, "that sucks, because you have to have it two weeks before you can see her". She was upset so he reminded her that he told her three months ago. She couldn't really argue with that. 

Do I feel badly, sure! I want everyone to enjoy and come see our newest addition and I am bummed that his mother won't see her for quite some time now, but we put that warning out there full well in advance. Don't feel guilty for being a parent and protecting your LO. That is exactly your job.  

I'm in the same position, although I do not feel at all badly about taking a hard line about it.  We made clear  some time ago our request & ramifications of not following through on them.  There have been a couple of pertussis cases at my MIL's school (one had already been discovered around the time we asked that immediate family ensure they're up to date on vaccinations) so it's not like we have completely unfounded & unreasonable expectations.  She wouldn't be the one watching her (firstborn) newborn struggle to live in the PICU, after all.
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 6:38 PM
jesstevens...
Not Ranked
Joined on 08-01-2007
Denver, CO
153 Posts
1,836 Points
jesstevens214 is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 3:02 PMNewbie
It's your home, your baby and your decision.  If they can't respect that then they don't need to visit the baby.  I'm a FTM and I'm not as strict but if friends or family have been sick they haven't been allowed to touch the baby or come over.  Did you get the flu shot?  The baby will have some immunity if you did.
Live life to the fullest and love like you've never been hurt or heartbroken. BabyFetus Ticker  
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 6:39 PM
Emerson200...
Not Ranked
Joined on 08-14-2006
Knoxville, Tn
529 Posts
3,664 Points
Emerson2007 is not online. Last active: 03-26-2013, 10:32 AMBronze
Jumping in- I have a 7wk old, but I saw this post on the way to 0-3 mo board.  We took the advice of OB, Pedi, and Dr. Dh and I let family know that if they wanted to hold LO or see him in the hospital they had to have Tdap and Flu shots. Period. Half got them, half did not. They ones that didn't haven't met him yet. We let them know like 6 months in advance. IL's got it with a LOT of resistance, but they knew we were serious. SIL is spiteful and so are a few other's on Dh's side, but I don't care. I haven't met a Dr that told me I was overkill. We had to go to the ER last week for a high temp and the Dr said "if family is upset, then you are doing something right" (as far as getting him out in crowds) My friends baby who is 9 weeks, was out and about by 1-2 weeks and has been battling a horrendous cold for 4 weeks, now has a double ear infection and pneumonia. I don't want my LO to go through that if we can lower his risk. I do have a school aged Ds too, so I am worried about what he brings home. I will feel better when LO is 12 weeks. On the plus side, they just approved Tamiflu for babies 2 weeks and older. RSV is really bad here right now too. 
Lil><a href=Lilypie 1st Birthday Tickerpie 3rd Birthday Ticker" border="0" /> 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 6:53 PM
sthomas122...
Not Ranked
Joined on 06-10-2012
621 Posts
11,053 Points
sthomas1222 is not online. Last active: 04-07-2013, 6:30 PMBronze
If that's what you want then they need to respect that. My dad and me got into a pretty heated fight about it when I told him he wouldn't be holding DD if he didn't get his TDaP. And to those who say the flu shot gives the flu are morons. Sorry but it doesn't. Yes you may feel like crap afterwards, my husband spiked a small fever. But if you get the flu the next day you were already exposed by the time you go the damn shot.
Anyways, your child your decision. If they don't want to get vaccinated with at least the TDaP then they can wait til your baby has started her vaccines or at least been here for a few weeks...
photo be1a8386-23ff-434a-beaf-1408a16593dd_zpsd844a7d8.jpg Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker  
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 7:05 PM
amykins128...
Not Ranked
Joined on 10-26-2009
Roswell, GA
5,267 Posts
11,970 Points
amykins1283 is online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 7:10 PMSilver
Your kid, your rules.  My BFF just had her baby and she's a preemie (35 weeker due to Pre-e).  No one who is not up to date with their shots is holding her and if you've been around sick people or think you might be sick then it's a no go.  They are being careful and I see nothing wrong with it. 
Image and video hosting by TinyPic Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 7:29 PM
RJM050705
Not Ranked
Joined on 09-05-2002
Seattle
1,401 Posts
15,473 Points
RJM050705 is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 7:06 PMBronze
Thank you for reminding me that I need to check in with my parents, FIL and all of our siblings.  I'm positive MIL is vaccinated since she works in a hospital and I'm guessing BIL/SIL/niece are all vaccinated as well.  I would bet my parents are not and I'm not sure about the rest of our brothers.  I'm not going to ask people to get the flu shot, but I am going to have them get the whooping cough booster if they haven't had it.
Rebecca :)

Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 7:32 PM
CougFan
Not Ranked
Joined on 08-06-2012
522 Posts
7,993 Points
CougFan is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 11:52 AMBronze
We have the same request with the disclaimer: It is absolutely your choice if you tat vaccinations or not and we won't hold it against you if you don't. You just can't hold the baby for 2 months. She won't care or remember who she sees.
Our 5 year old was 40 hours old when he was diagnosed with pneumonia. He hasld a spinal tap and then IVs in 7 different locations because his tiny veins kept collapsing. It was a weeknfrom hell and will do whatever I can to keep this baby healthy!
BabyFruit Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 7:42 PM
genepoolpe...
Not Ranked
Joined on 08-28-2008
New City, NY
535 Posts
9,052 Points
genepoolperfect is not online. Last active: 05-15-2013, 8:57 PMBronze

ArmyWife114:
We were up front with people.  DH and I told our respective parents/siblings that they would not be holding DS if they weren't up to date on their flu shot and their TDaP.  My mom pitched a fit and as much as I love my mother, my answer was "Look, our kid, our rules."  We explained that our county in Kansas was having a whooping cough epidemic and that the flu was going around our neighborhood like crazy.  Eventually they all came around and got their shots, but there griping at first.

If it's important to you, put your foot down and stick to your guns.

 This. 100% Your child, your rules. Tough titties to anyone who doesn't want to follow them.

                
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker

Our rescue kitties and Because we still enjoy the little things x8yrs. 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 7:57 PM
Bride-hild...
Not Ranked
Joined on 11-07-2007
Northridge, California
1,113 Posts
15,137 Points
Bride-hilda is not online. Last active: 05-17-2013, 11:20 PMBronze
They can either get their shots or wait 5 weeks. Either way is not the end of the world. Regardless of whether or not you're being paranoid, (which, I don't really think you are,) it's your choice, and it sounds like you've already put it in a nice way.
My Movie Blog My Baby Blog Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker Follow Me on Pinterest 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 8:09 PM
JenG329
Not Ranked
Joined on 08-04-2008
Delaware
4,212 Posts
3,523 Points
JenG329 is not online. Last active: 04-28-2013, 1:57 PMSilver

I never considered this.  Ds#1 was born in March during an H1N1 outbreak and I was just told not to go to the mall or other large public place.  

I'll ask my doctor about this but I would never tell my immediate family that they couldn't hold my son for 2 months.   
BabyFruit Ticker
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-01-2013 at 8:13 PM
+adamwife+
Not Ranked
Joined on 02-16-2011
5,390 Posts
42,991 Points
+adamwife+ is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 3:22 PMSilver

This will be my third born during cold and flu season and I've never asked anyone to get any type of vaccine.  I just make sure they wash their hands well before holding the baby.  I also know that anyone that does come to my home isn't going to show up with a runny nose and cough, so I'm not worried.

Ultimately it's your baby, so you should do whatever you are comfortable with.  

Lilypie Kids Birthday tickers Lilypie Fifth Birthday tickers Lilypie Second Birthday tickers Lilypie First Birthday tickers My Homeschooling Blog 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-02-2013 at 1:16 AM
dclsboo235
Not Ranked
Joined on 04-22-2010
Casper, Wyoming
680 Posts
7,225 Points
dclsboo235 is not online. Last active: 05-12-2013, 8:33 PMBronze
I wouldnt force anyone to get a vaccine. Staying away if you have symptoms and keeping hands clean are good enough for me. I havent had the flu shot in years and have only had it twice. Once wgen working in a nursing home. However i think ive had the dtap. I dont really know what else to say. I have one kiddo already so i guess i feel like i cant protect her from everything no matter what i tell people??
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker photo theboysanddany_zps4c74191e.jpg 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-02-2013 at 1:18 AM
dclsboo235
Not Ranked
Joined on 04-22-2010
Casper, Wyoming
680 Posts
7,225 Points
dclsboo235 is not online. Last active: 05-12-2013, 8:33 PMBronze
Jennifer_4_Jesus123:
Thanks! We have told people that it is their choice to get the shots or not. We are not forcing it on people as much as they think we are. The request was to our close family and friends who would be seeing her a lot vs. people at church we only see once a week. On top of it only applying to close friends and family, it was mainly for people who want to be in our house and/or hold her for the first couple months. So, we understand that taking her to church or out to the store is a risk, it's not our environment to control. However, when they throw a fit because we won't let them in our apartment or hold her for the first couple of months because they havn't been vaccinated, they make me feel like I don't know what I am talking about. The incubation periods are usually before symptoms start showing, and therefore, they can have it without knowing it and get her sick.


I like this. I didnt see it before i posted.
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker photo theboysanddany_zps4c74191e.jpg 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-02-2013 at 8:04 AM
osirismama
Not Ranked
Joined on 06-12-2012
361 Posts
6,796 Points
osirismama is not online. Last active: 02-24-2013, 2:57 PMNewbie

DS1 was born in April, so people were still sick. I did not force anyone to get shots, but if they were sick then they just stayed away until they were better. I do not do Vaccines for myself. I have a verymessed up imune system. My body takes viruses and regenerates them something feirce. I also had a neice that died in 2011 after getting a flu shot.and this year 4 children i know ended up hospitalized after the flu shot. I have a big fear of all that so i do not force. It is peoples personal choice.

But if they are sick tell them they can not come and see the babe. I also do the -must wash hands and sanatize them before they can touch little one.

Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker BabyFetus Ticker IAmPregnant Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-02-2013 at 8:34 AM
ungraceful...
Top 500 Contributor
Joined on 05-21-2008
Northern Kentucky
15,364 Posts
49,768 Points
ungraceful13 is not online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 3:20 PMPlatinum
Your decision. We asked all close family to have a flu shot and care givers to have the tdap. No one had an issue with it. Most of them already got a flu shot so it was just the tdap.

Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-02-2013 at 8:37 AM
daniella27...
Not Ranked
Joined on 03-26-2007
1,254 Posts
4,185 Points
daniella2727 is not online. Last active: 04-17-2013, 8:47 PMBronze

I think you are being ridiculous. You can't inflict your views of what someone should do medically on others.

What IS appropriate, is asking those who are or who are getting over being sick to refrain from seeing the baby. 

My sis-in-law had mono when my LO was born. Since she was on the mend the doctors said she could see her, but we said NO not until she was completely healed.  
My Pregnancy Blog: https://waiting4tuesday.wordpress.com/ Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-02-2013 at 8:41 AM
spring_tim...
Not Ranked
Joined on 05-24-2008
1,741 Posts
2,036 Points
spring_time is online. Last active: 05-19-2013, 7:23 PMBronze

I am in the minority here and think it is overkill.  I always roll my eyes when I hear of new moms requiring others to be vaccinated for the protection of their precious. You cannot control your child's environment, and you cannot control the behavior of others.  If you choose to do so through threats and withholding of your child, then you are building up to a lifetime of resentment by family members.

DS was born during the H1N1 scare and I never asked anyone to get vaccinated.  Vaccinations are a personal decision and I strongly believe you cannot force that on other people.  You have no idea how individual people will respond to vaccines.  As selfish as you think they are being, you are also being pretty self-absorbed by requiring people live life by your rules.
Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker BabyFruit Ticker 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
01-02-2013 at 4:36 PM
Lariah14
Not Ranked
Joined on 04-16-2009
Illinois
2,205 Posts
6,014 Points
Lariah14 is not online. Last active: 04-23-2013, 12:12 PMSilver
spring_time:

I am in the minority here and think it is overkill.  I always roll my eyes when I hear of new moms requiring others to be vaccinated for the protection of their precious. You cannot control your child's environment, and you cannot control the behavior of others.  If you choose to do so through threats and withholding of your child, then you are building up to a lifetime of resentment by family members.

DS was born during the H1N1 scare and I never asked anyone to get vaccinated.  Vaccinations are a personal decision and I strongly believe you cannot force that on other people.  You have no idea how individual people will respond to vaccines.  As selfish as you think they are being, you are also being pretty self-absorbed by requiring people live life by your rules.

 WTF?!?

You CAN control your child's environment almost 100% when they are newborns.You can control whether or not someone is allowed to visit/hold your child. No one is forcing anyone to get vaccinated, but just letting them know that if they don't' they can't visit. Not unreasonable.  If the others are resentful, then that is their problem - they made a choice. It is NOT self-absorbed to protect your child. Are you ok with people smoking around your baby in your house? That's imposing "your rules" on others.Frankly your nonchalance towards protecting your child is disconcerting.

OP- you are reasonable. When DS was born (during the H1N1 epidemic), we told our parents and siblings (those visiting the baby) we did say get your flu and DTAP shots. They did and we were super careful, not bringing DS to crowded places (church, etc.) for 2 months.  Anyone who came into our house had to wash their hands and take off their shoes and NOT be sick. This time around, I know it's going to be harder, but I do not plan on taking DS to library story time, the indoor playground, etc. for the first couple months. I will take him to individual playdates with friends who I trust - if their kids are sick they will let me know, and I know they vaccinate their kids (and get the flu shot themselves). Your kid, your rules. Your first priority is the health and safety of your baby. What may be a "little cold" for an adult can be deadly for a newborn.

Image and video hosting by TinyPic Lilypie Third Birthday tickers Lilypie Pregnancy tickers 
Report Abuse
Reply
Quote
Hot Topics

New dad or dad-to-be? Chat with other dads here!
Visit the Dads & Dads-to-be board

Need baby shower inspiration? Get ideas here!
Visit the Baby Showers board

Chat with other crafty moms here!
Visit the Crafty Moms board

search boards

choose another board

most active posters
sunlavende...
922 posts
BayleighPa...
905 posts
kamakaziar...
485 posts
minicheezb...
426 posts
sheacox
395 posts
Nest Cayla
356 posts
*Mrs*Rohrb...
245 posts
Love4Labs3...
219 posts
jertie
109 posts
KimberHill...
68 posts

connect with these online bumpies
mnbv9502! lavril
deliae babybmom
hb4178 19goingon30
meshly92905 sammiesjd414
DreamingBabies SunshineMuffin
alysonjill alysonmo25
BoilerUpGCCC artattack170
amnat84 janelleupole
robbie3982 jbatch
markhamgurl melynn916
ChiaWombat spring_time
rraven2718 haylo33
mommakristydawn Vitsky
Mommy2dandm saullen54
mrsjoey05 EarthyMama
From The Nest Boards:
"Female friend too close for comfort?"
cate1st on Relationships

"Do your single friends not 'get' it?"
Rwilsonny on Family Matters