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01-04-2013 at 1:23 PM
Daysie
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Acupuncture or Massage?

I talked with my IVF coordinator today about ways to reduce anxiety about the cycle and the waiting after ET. She suggested to try unmedicated first with either Acupuncture or Massage therapies. I was actually surprised she suggested massage because I didn't think it was safe after ET. She said as long as you don't do the deep tissue, I'd be fine. I'm still uncertain about this, has anyone here tired massage therapy during the cycle and after ET? 

I've done acupuncture before and I am leaning more towards that since it's safer, or at least in my mind it seems safer. Any thoughts?  


♥TTC#1 since June 2010♥

BFP #1 - 2/14/2011 * Natural m/c - 2/28/2011 @5w4d
BFP #2 -7/9/2012 * Chemical Pregnancy
BFP #3 -10/12/12 * Missed m/c - 11/15/12 @8w4d
BFP #4 - 2/18/13 * EDD 11/1/13! Please Stick Around Little One!

My Chart
DH (31) - 06/2011 - All Normal!
Me (29) - Stage 2 endo, polyps, cysts, and septum, FSH- 7.8, AMH - 1.2.
Hysteroscopy/Lap - 11/17/11 - removed: Stage 2 Endo, 3 cysts, and polyps & septum fixed.
1/1/12 -Cycle #18 = Ovidrel+B2B IUI+Progesterone = BFN
1/28/12- Cycle # 19 = Ovidrel+B2B IUI #2+Progesterone = BFN
4/6/12 - Stims Begin!! 300 Follistim, 10 Novearel, ganirelix
4/16/12- Cycle Cancelled. Poor/Late responder
6/8/12 - Stims begin for IVF 1.2: 500 Follistim, 20 Novarel, Ganirelix
6/18/12 - Trigger
6/20/12 - ER = 20 Retrieved, 18 mature, 15 fertilized w/ICSI
6/25/12 - ET - One beautiful blast transferred. 9 to freeze
7/9/12 - Beta #1 = 450, 7/11/12 - Beta #2 = 350, 7/13/12 - Beta #3 = 198-chemical pregnancy
8/23/12 - Hysteroscopic Surgery scheduled - Adhesion removed.
9/2/12 - FET Cycle #1 - tfr'ed 2 5 day blasts, 1 hatching
10/5/12 - ET
10/10/12 - + HPT FX for a sticky baby!
11/2/12 - 2nd U/S - 1 ges sac, 2 beautiful babies 2 beautiful heart rates = 125!!
11/15/12 - 8 weeks, no heart beats
11/16/12 - D&E - Chromosome testing showed 2 normal females
12/17/12 - Embryos biopsied and sent for PGS and re-frozen.
12/26/12 - PGS results: 3 abnormal male embryos, 4 normal embryos remaining.
1/6/13 - Lupron start for FET #2.
1/17/13 - Baseline - Cyst delayed us by a week.
1/25/13 - Baseline #2
2/7/13 - Lining Check
2/13/13 - FET #2 - tfr'ed 2 5 day blasts
2/18/13 - BFP! +HPT, Please, Please stick little one(s)
2/26/13 - Beta #1 = 1361!! keep sticking little one!
2/28/13 - Beta #2 = 2787!! Thanks Be To GOD!!
3/2/13 - Beta #3 = 4959! What a little miracle we have!
5/20/13 - It's a GIRL!! Team Pink!
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01-04-2013 at 1:43 PM
lincoln79
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Personally, I don't trust most massage therapists to know what would be ok. My acu and his wife took 3 ivf's to conceive and so he knows the level of stress and risk involved.

You could maybe try massage just before ET and acu after?

GL! 


TTC #1 since 12/2010 DH: MFI, cancer survivor Me: Resected septate uterus, lap treated mild endo, tubes open, ovulate on own. 3 Failed IUI's (2/2012, 4/2012, 6/2012) IVF #1 August 2012. BFP! Beta #1 56.7 Beta #2 150 One baby, one heartbeat on 9/20/12! no h/b @7w6d. dandc @8w0d Praying unceasingly for a miracle. PAIF/SAIF welcome Image and video hosting by TinyPic Image and video hosting by TinyPic Image and video hosting by TinyPic  
01-04-2013 at 1:48 PM
2MamazInSe...
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I got acupuncture every couple days after ET until I could test, and then even a few times after my initial bfp/betas. She did mostly points on the top of my head to help pull everything 'up' and stick. She said she could feel my pulse change once I was pregnant. Crazy! Anyhow, I agree that I would fear a massage therapist might push in the wrong place. Acupuncture is way safer in my mind too. FX for you!

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June 2012: First RE appt.due to age + plan to use DS
Sept 2012: Both fallopian tubes removed due to blockage
Dec 2012: Donor Egg/Donor Sperm IVF Cycle - BFP! EDD 8/29/13
Mar 15 2013: Missed miscarriage at 15w4d(discovered at 16w1d via home Doppler).
Mar 22 2013: D&E. Tests showed death due to (fluke) blood clot in umbilical cord. :(
May 24 2013: Hysterscopy to remove uterine adhesion post D&E.
We have three frosties. FET on July 18, 2013!
We live in Seattle and used SRM for our Donor Egg IVF cycle.
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01-04-2013 at 1:54 PM
Daysie
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Thanks Ladies. I actually asked for a referral for a massage therapist since I don't know any in the area. My coordinator's sister is actually a massage terapist so I asked for the number of the place she works at. I would only go to her since she sees a few other IVF patients and she understands IVF and infertility since her sister is my IVF coordinator. But I the idea of massage before ET and then acupuncture after ET is a good idea too.... hum, I'll have to continue to research. 


♥TTC#1 since June 2010♥

BFP #1 - 2/14/2011 * Natural m/c - 2/28/2011 @5w4d
BFP #2 -7/9/2012 * Chemical Pregnancy
BFP #3 -10/12/12 * Missed m/c - 11/15/12 @8w4d
BFP #4 - 2/18/13 * EDD 11/1/13! Please Stick Around Little One!

My Chart
DH (31) - 06/2011 - All Normal!
Me (29) - Stage 2 endo, polyps, cysts, and septum, FSH- 7.8, AMH - 1.2.
Hysteroscopy/Lap - 11/17/11 - removed: Stage 2 Endo, 3 cysts, and polyps & septum fixed.
1/1/12 -Cycle #18 = Ovidrel+B2B IUI+Progesterone = BFN
1/28/12- Cycle # 19 = Ovidrel+B2B IUI #2+Progesterone = BFN
4/6/12 - Stims Begin!! 300 Follistim, 10 Novearel, ganirelix
4/16/12- Cycle Cancelled. Poor/Late responder
6/8/12 - Stims begin for IVF 1.2: 500 Follistim, 20 Novarel, Ganirelix
6/18/12 - Trigger
6/20/12 - ER = 20 Retrieved, 18 mature, 15 fertilized w/ICSI
6/25/12 - ET - One beautiful blast transferred. 9 to freeze
7/9/12 - Beta #1 = 450, 7/11/12 - Beta #2 = 350, 7/13/12 - Beta #3 = 198-chemical pregnancy
8/23/12 - Hysteroscopic Surgery scheduled - Adhesion removed.
9/2/12 - FET Cycle #1 - tfr'ed 2 5 day blasts, 1 hatching
10/5/12 - ET
10/10/12 - + HPT FX for a sticky baby!
11/2/12 - 2nd U/S - 1 ges sac, 2 beautiful babies 2 beautiful heart rates = 125!!
11/15/12 - 8 weeks, no heart beats
11/16/12 - D&E - Chromosome testing showed 2 normal females
12/17/12 - Embryos biopsied and sent for PGS and re-frozen.
12/26/12 - PGS results: 3 abnormal male embryos, 4 normal embryos remaining.
1/6/13 - Lupron start for FET #2.
1/17/13 - Baseline - Cyst delayed us by a week.
1/25/13 - Baseline #2
2/7/13 - Lining Check
2/13/13 - FET #2 - tfr'ed 2 5 day blasts
2/18/13 - BFP! +HPT, Please, Please stick little one(s)
2/26/13 - Beta #1 = 1361!! keep sticking little one!
2/28/13 - Beta #2 = 2787!! Thanks Be To GOD!!
3/2/13 - Beta #3 = 4959! What a little miracle we have!
5/20/13 - It's a GIRL!! Team Pink!
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01-04-2013 at 2:16 PM
baker916
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** ticker warning **

 

I asked my RE the same question, and he said NO massage after ET.   Good luck!


TTC #1 7/10, Me (31)- Dx DOR (AMH 0.6); DH (30)- normal
BFP on Cycle #8. Natural M/C at ~8 weeks
IUI #1 and #2 (8/12, 9/12)- 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel = BFNs
IVF #1 (EPP) 13R/10M/9F, 5DT 1-4AA blast, beta #1-148, beta #2-322, 5 frosties!
3/18/13 - It's a Girl!
4/18/13 - A/S- baby looks perfect, but partial placenta previa
6/10/13 - Partial PP not resolved. :-( Likely scheduling c-section for 36 weeks
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01-04-2013 at 3:24 PM
Lacyj67
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I remember during my first IVF I though having a massage would feel so goo but with all the bruises in my butt and belly I didn't want any one rubbing me I was just ultra sensitive so I would opt for the acupuncture

Me 32 and DH 37 married in aug. 2002 Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 IVF #1 May 2012 ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN Hysteroscopy 7/12/12 D&C preformed and one Polyp removed MINI IVF Oct.2012 Cancelled 10-27-12 Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013 Ivf #3 Cancelled April 22nd 2013 Currently doing a DE CYCLE. ER around mid july and FET for me sept. 3 rd 2013. Everyone Welcome  
01-04-2013 at 6:25 PM
JewelsW198...
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I'm doing FET, transfers at the end of the month, and have massages scheduled for next week the week after. I hold a lot of tension in my shoulders and back and am in physical pain from it. Im sure you all can relate. I asked my RE and he said before transfer is okay, after is not because some pressure points can cause spontaneous miscarriage.

* Me- 32 * DH- 32 * TTC for 4 Years
* *IUIs 1-6 BFN*
*IVF #1= BFP- M/C *FET- * *Beta#1: 69 *Beta#2:482 *Beta#3 1088
*Beta#4 28,318 * Ultrasound- 1 beautiful heartbeat
IT'S A BOY!!! MAX LIAM
 
01-04-2013 at 8:12 PM
kflynn81
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I'd be more for the acupuncture rather than massage. I'm currently doing acupuncture with this cycle. After my first week I feel pretty good...not sure if its really helping me relax or its in my head but either way I'm relaxed :)

Anniversary
Me(31): Some sort of endocrine malfunction that even the major Chicago hospitals can't diagnose. Yay me!!
I also have Factor V Leiden...yay me again!
DH (31): Borderline low morph, but not considered a problem
"Baby dancing" with no protection or BCP since July 2009
IF testing started March 2011
Endocrinology related tests from October 2011-February 2012
March 2012--Clomid --No response-Straight to injects!
April & May 2012-- IUI#1 & #2 = BFN
July 2012- IVF#1 cancelled
September 2012-IVF#1.2--BFN
November 2012- IVF #2 --BFN
January 2013- IVF #3-- BFFN
February 2013--June 2013 Back to the Endocrinologist for more diagnostic testing
IVF #4 --June 2013
PAIF/SAIF encouraged...give me some hope!!
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01-05-2013 at 8:21 AM
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I have no idea if this is even a factor, but one thing I did very different the 2nd cycle I got my BFP was I had a massage with Chriopractic adjustment the 2 days before transfer. I had it done Thurs, and transfer was sat.  I will do the same exact thing. It does really relax you, and I believe my body was just like yaay. Good luck with whatever you decide. For me Acupunture would not be relaxing.

Married BF 6/29/2002/ TTC Since Aug 2011/ ME:34 dx DOR/DH:41 DX Severe MFI/oats IVF w/ICSI OCT 2012 Stims started 10/8/ER 10/19/12/ET 10/24/Beta#1 11/2=BFN (beta was 1.2) IVF 2.0-Baseline 11/7/12 beta 0/All Clear Stim start 11/7/12//ER 11/19 11M//10F ET 2 embies 11/24//Beta#1 28 Beta #2 23 Beta#3 29 stop meds Beta#4 37/C/P 5W5D EDD:8/12/13/Ivf#3 1/13 had to freeze 3 poor quality embies Fet 2/13=bfn 3/13-switched Re New protocol/lupron/bcp in July 13 5th final/everyone welcome My Chart//> Image and video hosting by TinyPic
 
01-05-2013 at 10:03 AM
tptbabe
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I'm a huge fan of acupuncture! I despise massage. It has the exact opposite effect on me than everyone else it seems (stresses me out, and I end up in more pain afterwards than before) so I might not be the best person to ask about that one! But acupuncture did great things for me personally, so I reccomend it to everyone.


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TCM and progesterone supplements
Early loss in 08/11
MFI Dx in 03/12 Low count, low motility, poor morphology and high levels of anti-sperm antibodies
Treated with supplements and TCM. Much lower on all factors. Count too low to test for anti-bodies
Met with new urologist 11/12
IUI #1 12/12: Letrozole + Gonal-F = BFN
DH started Clomid 01/13
New SA shows 33 million sperm! Thank you Clomid!!!
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01-10-2013 at 11:56 AM
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I am actually in my 3rd fresh IVF cycle (1st cycle BFN, 1st FET BFN, 2nd fresh cycle was a BFP but then CP) and am doing acupuncture and massage for the first time with this cycle.  This week was my 6th week with the acupuncture, I do it once a week for an hour and will continue to do so up until retrieval (right now estimated for 1/21 or 1/22).  I plan on doing acupuncture before and after retrieval and transfer and doing a massage the night before transfer.  I did a massage this week for the first time, am getting another one next Tuesday and will get another one the night before transfer.  My docs and nurses are ok with all of this but advised against massage after transfer.  Good luck!
 
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