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01-08-2013 at 11:56 AM
stacee55j
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Nursing at a year

My son will be 1 year at the end of the month. Right now our schedule looks mostly like this but does vary:

7 am wake, nurse
8:30 am breakfast
99:30 nurse, nap
11:30am lunch
1212:30pm nurse
1:30 nap
3pm snack
33:30 nurse
5:30 dinner
6:307 bed
45am nurse

Am I nursing too much? Feeding solids at the right times? I hope to start weaning at a year but don't know how and am not confident about it at all. He nurses to sleep at night and almost always for naps too. I appreciate any direction. Thanks!
 
01-08-2013 at 12:24 PM
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Here's my schedule (DD will be a year on 1/24)

7 am wake nurse

8:00 I leave for work

8:30 a.m. breakfast 

10:00 nap? sometimes. Nanny might give her a bottle (5 oz) during the day but she hasn't been taking a bottle during the day much.

12:00 lunch

1:00 nap I think

3:00 snack

6:00 p.m. I come home from work, nurse.

7:00 dinner

8:30 pm bedtime- nurse

2 am: sometimes- nurse

4/5 am: nurse. 

I do not think you're nursing too much.  Sounds just like a weekend schedule for me (except we do bedtime much later).

I would love it if DD didn't nurse at 2 and 4 am but eventually she won't.  I also always had the goal of nursing to a year, but honestly she nurses to sleep and for naps when I'm with her and I think we'll be nursing for a while still! 

01-08-2013 at 12:28 PM
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I left out that mine sometimes nursed between 122 at night also! It's just in the last month or so he's been getting up for this extra nursing and I'm hoping it goes away soon!! Thanks for your input :
 
01-08-2013 at 12:30 PM
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I know! I hate these middle of the night nursings! Hopefully they'll STTN eventually.  I have a 2 1/2 yr old who sleeps beautifully and doesn't wake once so I have hope!
01-08-2013 at 12:30 PM
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Oh and I also nurse at his bedtime. Missed that one!
 
01-08-2013 at 12:35 PM
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DD turned 1 on 1/4 & still nurses about every 3-4 hours.  She nurses to sleep (naps and bedtime) and 2-4 times overnight.  She's not always eating, many times (especially overnight) she just comfort nurses.  Honestly, if I offer her my breast every 2 hours she would comfort nurse a couple of minutes.

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01-08-2013 at 12:45 PM
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Well I'm glad I'm not the only one then! My LO is the same way. :
 
01-08-2013 at 12:47 PM
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OH and I get to hold mine for the duration of his nap in the rocking chair. I don't know to laugh or cry! Haha
 
01-08-2013 at 1:03 PM
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I am getting ready to wean, but my son is still completely addicted to the boob. He doesn't have as much milk though as above; much more solid food.

5:30-6am - Wake up, nurse (if time) or bottle with breastmilk

8am - breakfast (yogurt, oatmeal, fruit)

8:30am - first nap

9:30-10am - snack (sometimes snack includes 3-4 oz breatmilk in sippy cup)

11:30-12pm - lunch (chicken or some kind of meat, veggies, fruit, carb)

2pm - second nap

3:30-4pm - snack (sometimes will include nursing if I am home, sometimes includes 3-4 oz breastmilk in suppy cup)

5:30-6pm - Dinner (meat, veggie, fruit, carb)

6:30-7 - bath

7-8pm bedtime (son sleeps through the night till next morning about 5:30-6am)


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01-08-2013 at 1:14 PM
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I didn't nurse past 8 weeks, but I can tell you that DD2 slept way better when she was bottle fed formula than when she was nursing, and the reason why was because she wasn't getting more than an ounce total from both boobs. She was hungry. She also just comfort nursed most of the time. So, I would say if your LOs are nursing so much that they aren't STTN at a year, you really aren't doing them any good by giving them the boob throughout the night. I'm not going into an argument over BF over FF, because that isn't even the issue here. Either your kids are hungry and waking because their bellies are saying to, or because you are reinforcing that need to comfort nurse by doing so. If you don't mind waking up throughout the night, thats one thing, but if you do, I would try to wean them from that behavior, not just from the boob. I would try to pump and bottle feed that BM to make sure they are really wanting to eat or just waking because they can.

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01-08-2013 at 1:42 PM
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5:30-6am - Wake up, nurse 

8am - breakfast (yogurt, oatmeal, fruit)

8:30am - first nap

9:30-10am - snack and water

11:30-12pm - lunch (chicken or some kind of meat, veggies, fruit, carb)

2pm - second nap

3:30-4pm - snack plus nursing session

5:30-6pm - Dinner (meat, veggie, fruit, carb)

6:30-7 - bath

7-8pm Nurse bedtime 

Usually nurses at least once and sometimes twice. 

Our day is very like this. I've bolded where our day varies a little. 


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01-08-2013 at 1:51 PM
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acaudill75:
I didn't nurse past 8 weeks, but I can tell you that DD2 slept way better when she was bottle fed formula than when she was nursing, and the reason why was because she wasn't getting more than an ounce total from both boobs. She was hungry. She also just comfort nursed most of the time. So, I would say if your LOs are nursing so much that they aren't STTN at a year, you really aren't doing them any good by giving them the boob throughout the night. I'm not going into an argument over BF over FF, because that isn't even the issue here. Either your kids are hungry and waking because their bellies are saying to, or because you are reinforcing that need to comfort nurse by doing so. If you don't mind waking up throughout the night, thats one thing, but if you do, I would try to wean them from that behavior, not just from the boob. I would try to pump and bottle feed that BM to make sure they are really wanting to eat or just waking because they can.

 

I am not trying to argue but want to point out that many breast fed babies eat during the night not because they're  not getting enough but because breast milk is metabolized much quicker than formula.  Formula makes a baby feel fuller longer.  It's actually very normal for breast fed babies to be nursing overnight still at a year.  I wouldn't automatically assume that because they're not STTN that they're not getting enough breastmilk throughout the day.  They could simply be reverse cycling if away from mom during the day. 

Good luck, OP!  We're not as close to a year but it is helpful to read threads like this to get me thinking about the next steps! 

 


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01-08-2013 at 1:59 PM
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acaudill75:
I didn't nurse past 8 weeks, but I can tell you that DD2 slept way better when she was bottle fed formula than when she was nursing, and the reason why was because she wasn't getting more than an ounce total from both boobs. She was hungry. She also just comfort nursed most of the time. So, I would say if your LOs are nursing so much that they aren't STTN at a year, you really aren't doing them any good by giving them the boob throughout the night. I'm not going into an argument over BF over FF, because that isn't even the issue here. Either your kids are hungry and waking because their bellies are saying to, or because you are reinforcing that need to comfort nurse by doing so. If you don't mind waking up throughout the night, thats one thing, but if you do, I would try to wean them from that behavior, not just from the boob. I would try to pump and bottle feed that BM to make sure they are really wanting to eat or just waking because they can.

OH man.  Where do I start? *takes a deep breath*

Even if we "mind" waking through the night is your advice REALLY to pump and bottle feed? I am going to try and control myself here with my comment, but you are INSANE if you think I'm going to go and pump a bottle instead of breastfeeding my baby and comforting them.   I realize you are trying to provide another point of view and another opinion and that is fair.  But please do not perpetuate the ridiculous stereotype that children sleep better when formula fed than bottle fed.  Whatever did women do before? 

Eh I'm done here.  And not to be a jerk but as a mom who only BF for 8 weeks your advice isn't helpful at all.  

01-08-2013 at 2:02 PM
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JENandJEH:

acaudill75:
I didn't nurse past 8 weeks, but I can tell you that DD2 slept way better when she was bottle fed formula than when she was nursing, and the reason why was because she wasn't getting more than an ounce total from both boobs. She was hungry. She also just comfort nursed most of the time. So, I would say if your LOs are nursing so much that they aren't STTN at a year, you really aren't doing them any good by giving them the boob throughout the night. I'm not going into an argument over BF over FF, because that isn't even the issue here. Either your kids are hungry and waking because their bellies are saying to, or because you are reinforcing that need to comfort nurse by doing so. If you don't mind waking up throughout the night, thats one thing, but if you do, I would try to wean them from that behavior, not just from the boob. I would try to pump and bottle feed that BM to make sure they are really wanting to eat or just waking because they can.

 

I am not trying to argue but want to point out that many breast fed babies eat during the night not because they're  not getting enough but because breast milk is metabolized much quicker than formula.  Formula makes a baby feel fuller longer.  It's actually very normal for breast fed babies to be nursing overnight still at a year.  I wouldn't automatically assume that because they're not STTN that they're not getting enough breastmilk throughout the day.  They could simply be reverse cycling if away from mom during the day. 

Good luck, OP!  We're not as close to a year but it is helpful to read threads like this to get me thinking about the next steps! 

 

 What the second PP said is true, but EBF babies can STTN.  I've known plenty who have and at a young age.  They simply aren't hungry at night.  It's not true of all BF babies, but some.

And EBF babies who are well-established on filling solids should be able to go through.  Once solids, especially proteins such as meat and fats such as full fat yogurt, butter, oils, avacado, and cheeses, are being consumed then babies can feel full as long as adults can.

That said I have no issue with babies who nurse at night, as long as the child shows signs of getting enough rest and the mom is OK with it.


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01-08-2013 at 2:59 PM
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As a mom that has breastfed for almost a year...(12 more days!!!)...my son would still be getting up multiple times a night, not because he is hungry, but because that was his habit! Sadly, but fortunately, my Dr made it a point to tell me that at 4 months my son should be sleeping at least 6-7 hours at a time during the night. He was at that point getting up every 2-3 hours, more commonly, every 2 hours. It was killing me. She told us to have my husband go in when he got up in the middle of the night, pat his back and leave again. We were very fortunate that this worked and he went right back to sleep. (It is not that easy for everyone!) This lastest 4 nights and then my son was sleeping 6-7 hours at a time. At 9 months he was only sleeping about 7-8 hours at a time and my Dr. insisted that he should been sleeping 10-11 hours at a time. I thought this was impossible for my son! But after 4-5 nights of not getting him up when he woke up, he started sleeping 10-11 hours straight at night. A few of these nights he did cry for 30-40 minutes at least once a night and it was terror (I never planned on being a Cry It Out mom, but as a full-time working mom, I also needed sleep!). With a little work on my part, he was fine, I was the one that took it so hard, my son is a sleeper! We have had a few upsets here and there when he is sick and teething, but as moms we tend to know if our children are actually needing comfort or assistance and when they are just trying to get attention.

Many babies though, even with all this work, still won't sleep through the night! Everyone has their own way of course and it's just a matter of doing what you have to do and not judging the other moms for doing what they do! I am so proud to say my son has been breastfed for almost a year and if he wakes up in the night, I know he is not hungry because he his breastfed, but because it's either out of habit or he actually needs something.


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01-08-2013 at 3:08 PM
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acaudill75:
I didn't nurse past 8 weeks, but I can tell you that DD2 slept way better when she was bottle fed formula than when she was nursing, and the reason why was because she wasn't getting more than an ounce total from both boobs. She was hungry. She also just comfort nursed most of the time. So, I would say if your LOs are nursing so much that they aren't STTN at a year, you really aren't doing them any good by giving them the boob throughout the night. I'm not going into an argument over BF over FF, because that isn't even the issue here. Either your kids are hungry and waking because their bellies are saying to, or because you are reinforcing that need to comfort nurse by doing so. If you don't mind waking up throughout the night, thats one thing, but if you do, I would try to wean them from that behavior, not just from the boob. I would try to pump and bottle feed that BM to make sure they are really wanting to eat or just waking because they can.

OH man.  Where do I start? *takes a deep breath*

Even if we "mind" waking through the night is your advice REALLY to pump and bottle feed? I am going to try and control myself here with my comment, but you are INSANE if you think I'm going to go and pump a bottle instead of breastfeeding my baby and comforting them.   I realize you are trying to provide another point of view and another opinion and that is fair.  But please do not perpetuate the ridiculous stereotype that children sleep better when formula fed than bottle fed.  Whatever did women do before? 

Eh I'm done here.  And not to be a jerk but as a mom who only BF for 8 weeks your advice isn't helpful at all.  

I only BF for 8 weeks because it dried up, but thanks for perpetuating the myth that mothers who FF are not as pious as you. Good for you that your child needs to be fed every five seconds. Good for you that you don't MIND getting up and feeding them. You are a WAY better mom than I ever could be. However, my child will still do all the things your child will do in spite of the fact that I wasn't woman enough to BF her past 8 weeks. Oh, and she doesn't wake me up in the middle of the night simply so I can place a nipple in her mouth and she can go back to sleep. I have nothing against women who BF, and although I may not be la leche enough for you, I was just trying to help, so kindly get off your high horse and stop being a b*tch. Maybe you need some more sleep. Just saying.


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01-08-2013 at 3:15 PM
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Nope I'm all good with my sleep.  That's all I'm responding to your angry rant. 

Edit: Actually on second thought I will respond.  I'm sorry you dried up.  However, your advice is not helpful to a BFing mom.  Telling a BFing mom that your kids slept better with formula and that she should pump and feed a bottle? Sorry you experienced hardships with breastfeeding I know many women do.  BUT this does not give you an automatic pass at giving bad advice and no one being able to tell you so.  

I'm sorry for your experience but I still think your advice is bad.

01-08-2013 at 4:27 PM
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To help get this thread back on the real topic. My nursing schedule looks just like that. Except(like right now) which is about a week out from my period starting, my milk goes down. So, my daughter wakes up two to three times a night to nurse. Other than that, she may get up one to two time. But, I have let her fuss is out a time or two(if its before midnight) and she will put herself back to sleep. 

It's good to know that others of you are nursing as frequently as I am at this stage in the game(LO's bday is in Feb.) I was wondering if I was the only one.

 Any of you planning to continue after a year? I plan to. Boy, when people ask me about that do I hear all kinds of remarks and get all sorts of advice. How are you guys handeling that? My daughter is so happy, and so am I that I see no need to stop at the magical 12 month mark. It still works for us both though.  

 
01-08-2013 at 9:43 PM
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Wow. This wasn't even a post about sleeping through the night! I don't resent my son or feel as if I've done him a disservice because he's nursed and still gets up once or twice a night. No I don't love waking in the night but I do love my son dearly and nursing him has been an amazing experience. But thanks for your input...I guess?

To the last poster, I do plan to continue nursing but hope to cut back the day time feedings once he can have milk. I don't really have a plan but we'll see where it progresses from there. I hope to be done though by around 18 months though cause I'd like a little time before we start trying for baby 2. People do make obnoxious comments but I really don't care. I can see where people are a bit creeped out I guess about nursing a 5 year old maybe but these are babies, give me a break. Not that it's anyone's business either way. Bitterness/jealousy/ignorance? is what I have to chalk it up to.
 
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acaudill75:
I didn't nurse past 8 weeks, but I can tell you that DD2 slept way better when she was bottle fed formula than when she was nursing, and the reason why was because she wasn't getting more than an ounce total from both boobs. She was hungry. She also just comfort nursed most of the time. So, I would say if your LOs are nursing so much that they aren't STTN at a year, you really aren't doing them any good by giving them the boob throughout the night. I'm not going into an argument over BF over FF, because that isn't even the issue here. Either your kids are hungry and waking because their bellies are saying to, or because you are reinforcing that need to comfort nurse by doing so. If you don't mind waking up throughout the night, thats one thing, but if you do, I would try to wean them from that behavior, not just from the boob. I would try to pump and bottle feed that BM to make sure they are really wanting to eat or just waking because they can.

I'm going to gloss over the fact that I assume this statement is not based on any medical/psychological/child developmental or other relevant field of training and skip straight to, "you don't get to decide what is best for my child and my family unit." 

I believe that how my child nurses is best for HER and ME in terms of nourishment, comfort, rest and connectedness. Are there other ways to provide these things? Of course. I have chosen what works for us. 

Both my daughters have gone up and done and back and forth in terms of how long they sleep and how easily they re-settle. I know very few adults who night after night after night sleep the exact same length of time with no disturbances. I know plenty of adults who get up and have a snack, a drink or go the toilet. I don't expect more of my baby (but I digress)

I don't care how YOU feed or YOUR baby, or if you do CIO, or if you stand on your head and do salutations to the moon whilst singing to your baby in latin, because it's about what works for you.

The OP asked for examples of other people's schedules. No one asked to be told they are not doing their child any good. 


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01-08-2013 at 10:17 PM
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stacee55j:
Wow. This wasn't even a post about sleeping through the night! I don't resent my son or feel as if I've done him a disservice because he's nursed and still gets up once or twice a night. No I don't love waking in the night but I do love my son dearly and nursing him has been an amazing experience. But thanks for your input...I guess? To the last poster, I do plan to continue nursing but hope to cut back the day time feedings once he can have milk. I don't really have a plan but we'll see where it progresses from there. I hope to be done though by around 18 months though cause I'd like a little time before we start trying for baby 2. People do make obnoxious comments but I really don't care. I can see where people are a bit creeped out I guess about nursing a 5 year old maybe but these are babies, give me a break. Not that it's anyone's business either way. Bitterness/jealousy/ignorance? is what I have to chalk it up to.

You didn't ask but I just thought I'd chime in with how things went with DD1. I went back to work at 12mths, so she was getting cows milk during the day, and we would nurse morning and night. Sometimes late afternoon when I picked her up, and sometimes during the night.

We went back and forth on the night thing. Sometimes she slept right through, sometimes she was teething or sick or just the initial "shock" of daycare meant she missed me.

She got sick around 15mths which really messed with her sleep, and after a few weeks I night weaned her. I did the JayGordon method which was really gentle and suited her temperament.

Our first thing in the morning session was the last one to go. She self weaned at 18mths. (possibly because I was 6mths pregnant)


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01-08-2013 at 11:22 PM
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At 11 months DS was nursing twice a day and getting two pumped bottles (so 4 times total in 24hrs), plus 3 solid meals a day. Now, I dropped pumping at work and am filling the gap with some frozen and some formula until we transition daytime feedings to WCM. His nursing bottle times are 7am, 11am, 3pm, 8pm. Solids at 9am, 1pm and 6pm. So he really eats like every 2 hours in the day!,

My son was EBF and has STTN since 8 months. BF or FF, they can and probably should be getting all their calories during the day. All babies are different but don't attribute night feedings to being EBF because there are plenty of BF babies that STTN (waiting for DS to wake up all night now as my karma for posting this...) if they aren't eating enough solids for their age this could be why.


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01-09-2013 at 7:27 AM
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JWSchwarz:

At 11 months DS was nursing twice a day and getting two pumped bottles (so 4 times total in 24hrs), plus 3 solid meals a day. Now, I dropped pumping at work and am filling the gap with some frozen and some formula until we transition daytime feedings to WCM. His nursing bottle times are 7am, 11am, 3pm, 8pm. Solids at 9am, 1pm and 6pm. So he really eats like every 2 hours in the day!,

My son was EBF and has STTN since 8 months. BF or FF, they can and probably should be getting all their calories during the day. All babies are different but don't attribute night feedings to being EBF because there are plenty of BF babies that STTN (waiting for DS to wake up all night now as my karma for posting this...) if they aren't eating enough solids for their age this could be why.

This was all I meant, ladies. That if you are BF and your child isn't sleeping through the night, they may not be getting enough. Sorry if you are over protective of your right to BF your child throughout the night for calories, comfort or whatever. I never said you shouldn't, nor did I profess to be the BF maven. The OP asked if she was BF too much, and someone else mentioned having to get up throughout the night to BF and being tired. I know from my VERY LIMITED BF experience that DD2 was not getting enough BM from me so was always hungry, so that is why I mentioned it. If you want to get up three times a night, every night and plop that nipple in your child's mouth for no other reason except to feel comfort and give comfort, by all means. I couldn't care less why you are still BF. I applaud women who can and do BF as long as they can. I know I wasn't able to and felt a lot of guilt over it. Which is also why I mentioned it, because a lot of women will force themselves out of guilt or whatever to continue something that may or may not be working. If OP didn't want an opinion, they wouldn't have asked. I however did not ask for your nasty opinons, but I recognize your right to give them on this board. And no, I sleep through the night and don't have to give salutations (or whatever idiotic exaggeration one poster decided to include) to everyone because for the most part, DDs didn't need my nipple in their mouth to fall back asleep, and quite frankly, I didn't need my nipple in their mouths to validate me as a good mother. Also, I have tons of friends who currently or have BF their babies and they STTN, so to me it seemed odd that someone had a schedule that included waking 2-3 a night to feed a child at this age.


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01-09-2013 at 8:40 AM
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Here's my 2 cents...

We're not nursing anymore :( but DS takes a bottle at the same times that you nurse... other than he's wide awake at 5am.

I've read that babies at this age need 3 meals and 2 snacks, so as long as your son is getting full, then I don't see any problems with your schedule!

One trick that has helped us most of the time to keep DS asleep longer is a bowl of baby cereal right before bed. Don't feel bad about nursing him to sleep. What's better than comforting your baby in the best way possible?

I'm not sure about weaning a 1 year old. We transitioned to pumped bottled first (since DS couldn't resist biting.. and HARD), then slowly mixed in formula. But I'm assuming you'll skip the bottle & formula part? Have you started a sippy & introduced a little bit of cows milk?


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01-09-2013 at 9:42 AM
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At 11 months DS was nursing twice a day and getting two pumped bottles (so 4 times total in 24hrs), plus 3 solid meals a day. Now, I dropped pumping at work and am filling the gap with some frozen and some formula until we transition daytime feedings to WCM. His nursing bottle times are 7am, 11am, 3pm, 8pm. Solids at 9am, 1pm and 6pm. So he really eats like every 2 hours in the day!,

My son was EBF and has STTN since 8 months. BF or FF, they can and probably should be getting all their calories during the day. All babies are different but don't attribute night feedings to being EBF because there are plenty of BF babies that STTN (waiting for DS to wake up all night now as my karma for posting this...) if they aren't eating enough solids for their age this could be why.

This was all I meant, ladies. That if you are BF and your child isn't sleeping through the night, they may not be getting enough. Sorry if you are over protective of your right to BF your child throughout the night for calories, comfort or whatever. I never said you shouldn't, nor did I profess to be the BF maven. The OP asked if she was BF too much, and someone else mentioned having to get up throughout the night to BF and being tired. I know from my VERY LIMITED BF experience that DD2 was not getting enough BM from me so was always hungry, so that is why I mentioned it. If you want to get up three times a night, every night and plop that nipple in your child's mouth for no other reason except to feel comfort and give comfort, by all means. I couldn't care less why you are still BF. I applaud women who can and do BF as long as they can. I know I wasn't able to and felt a lot of guilt over it. Which is also why I mentioned it, because a lot of women will force themselves out of guilt or whatever to continue something that may or may not be working. If OP didn't want an opinion, they wouldn't have asked. I however did not ask for your nasty opinons, but I recognize your right to give them on this board. And no, I sleep through the night and don't have to give salutations (or whatever idiotic exaggeration one poster decided to include) to everyone because for the most part, DDs didn't need my nipple in their mouth to fall back asleep, and quite frankly, I didn't need my nipple in their mouths to validate me as a good mother. Also, I have tons of friends who currently or have BF their babies and they STTN, so to me it seemed odd that someone had a schedule that included waking 2-3 a night to feed a child at this age.

If all you meant was to suggest that her baby may not be getting enough, why feel the need to continually be crude in your description of breastfeeding?  Yes, you have the right to an opinion but I cannot, for the life of me, understand why people must resort to being downright crude and rude to one another simply because as moms we make different choices? 

Rather than: If you want to get up three times a night, every night and plop that nipple in your child's mouth for no other reason except to feel comfort and give comfort, by all means. 

Why not try:  If you're ok with waking 2 or 3 times and night and comfort nursing, that's great, but if not, then maybe try......

Yes, some BF babies can STTN, mine being one of them.  However, it is not out of the realm of normal for other BF babies to NEED to eat during the night because maybe mom is working and they don't take a bottle well so they are reverse cycling.  Also, you likely did have enough milk but your baby was going through a growth spurt at 8 weeks.  BF babies going through growth spurts can seem like they're not getting enough because they want to eat non-stop for a couple days.  I'm sorry it didn't work out for you and applaud you for making the decision to do what was right for you and your baby. 


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01-09-2013 at 10:49 AM
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It was not my intention to be crude and rude, I was responding kind to what I felt like was an attack on me for what I felt was a sincere attempt to help. I know for a fact that I wasn't making enough because I pumped no more than an ounce total from both boobs. So, when my daughter lost a lb at birth and failed to gain it back three weeks later, I knew that it wasn't a growth spurt. At eight weeks, I stopped because there was no point. She was using me as a pacifier to fall asleep and I was already giving her most of her calories in the form of formula. I don't knock anyone's decisions, but if you want to be snotty with me, you will get snotty from me. Not everyone speaks to others the way that they want to be spoken to, and then get in a snit when they get a response they didn't expect, myself included. But I will defend myself, my opinions, and my decisions as I see fit. I happen to think that BF is beautiful, but that some poster's response was not, and so she got what she served.


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01-09-2013 at 11:13 AM
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acaudill75:

It was not my intention to be crude and rude, I was responding kind to what I felt like was an attack on me for what I felt was a sincere attempt to help. I know for a fact that I wasn't making enough because I pumped no more than an ounce total from both boobs. So, when my daughter lost a lb at birth and failed to gain it back three weeks later, I knew that it wasn't a growth spurt. At eight weeks, I stopped because there was no point. She was using me as a pacifier to fall asleep and I was already giving her most of her calories in the form of formula. I don't knock anyone's decisions, but if you want to be snotty with me, you will get snotty from me. Not everyone speaks to others the way that they want to be spoken to, and then get in a snit when they get a response they didn't expect, myself included. But I will defend myself, my opinions, and my decisions as I see fit. I happen to think that BF is beautiful, but that some poster's response was not, and so she got what she served.

Sigh. I was not going to respond, but here goes:

"So, I would say if your LOs are nursing so much that they aren't STTN at a year, you really aren't doing them any good by giving them the boob throughout the night. I'm not going into an argument over BF over FF, because that isn't even the issue here."

You brought up BF v FF. By virtue of mentioning it wasn't an argument about BFing v FF you made it into one. Also you do realize that your initial response was also "snooty" by telling a mom that they're not doing a baby any good by giving them the boob throughout the night. This is a crude characterization of breastfeeding.  

"I would try to pump and bottle feed that BM to make sure they are really wanting to eat or just waking because they can. "

I said this was bad advice because it's not very realistic to pump in the middle of the night, instead of BFing, IMO.

Finally, no one attacked you, you got incredibly defensive and went on a huge rant yourself.  And no, I generally do not take breastfeeding advice regarding my almost one year old from someone who breastfed an 8 week old.  The feedings are quite different between an 8 wk old and 1 yr old as are their sleeping habits and needs at night.  It is merely a factual matter and has nothing to do with your ability to BF.  In fact if my past self (breastfeeding an 8 wk old) tried to give my current self (breastfeeding a 1 yr old) advice I would have been way off base.  

And getting what you deserve? on the internet? really? You do realize that I take no offense to anything said to me online, much less on thebump.com.  Nobody got what they "deserved" this is an online message board, nothing more. 

 


01-09-2013 at 11:34 AM
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That's plan plan as well. I'd love to cut it down to morning, before bed, and at night(if need be). I am a bit nervous myself to cut back during the day, but I'm just going to replace with mid morning and mid afternoon sessions with a good snack instead.

 

I am most nervous about replacing my milk with something else though. My daughter has a dairy and soy intolerance(waiting until her first birthday to get her tested to see the severity.) Right now the diary and soy cause her to vomit and get a very red and irritated bottom. So I guess it's almond(wondering if that's even okay) or rice milk. :-( 

 
01-09-2013 at 11:41 AM
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Oh my goodness. I'm sorry to the poster who stopped nursing at 8 weeks that it didn't work out for you. 8 weeks is a lot better than nothing though so I would try not to feel so guilty about it and based on your responses it sounds like you do. As for me and my child, I am not worried about him not getting enough because he is thriving at almost 12 months. I just wondered if I was over feeding him during the day really. I know few people who exclusively nurse without bottles at this stage. I didn't even mention my son's night waking because it isn't all the time but just since the last month or so. Prior to that he had been going 10 hour stretches or so. I assume he wants the comfort in the night because while he does nurse well at that feeding he then doesn't nurse as well at the next one. I'm capable of deciding how long I'll let this go on and what if anything should be done about it.
 
01-09-2013 at 11:47 AM
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We think my son has a dairy intolerance too! I had not had any dairy/soy products since he was just around 23 months old. The last month or 2 the specialist told me to slowly work it back into my diet and so far he has been fine. He never had vomiting or rash but had a few instances of blood in his stool early on before I gave up dairy. I share your concerns but am hopeful they'll recommend we go for it and that he does well with it! My other concern is that he nurses before his naps usually so we'll need a new plan for that. :/
 
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