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01-09-2013 at 7:18 AM
huntjul
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~~~waiting to O~~~

Good morning, ladies.  Happy Hump Day!

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CD:

What are you doing this month?:

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks:

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?

 

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01-09-2013 at 7:21 AM
jeffsjayme
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Cycle/Month:  4/7

CD: 40

What are you doing this month?:  Getting frustrated.  err..the usual: charting, OPKs, grasping at straws

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks:  I gotta O soon, right?  No, not right.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?  Dream world: Magically losing weight without effort.  Realistically: Watching TV.


 
01-09-2013 at 7:24 AM
citygirl17
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Cycle/Month:  5/4

CD: 6

What are you doing this month?: green tea, lots of water, prenatals, tracking CM, DH is taking a multivitamin, sex EOD / ED during FW

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: just waiting for my FW.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?  swimming, shopping, going out to eat, sleeping, or just cuddling with DH


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01-09-2013 at 7:25 AM
LaurenAsh2...
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Good morning, ladies.  Happy Hump Day!

Cycle/Month: 12/12

CD: 12

What are you doing this month?: sex, OPKs maybe, temping to confirm O (best temping I've done in a while haha), checking CM, drinking more water and less caffeine

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: DH is on my nerves...told him fw was this week over the weekend so hopefully I didn't have to push to get good timing this month. The last 2 nights he's not had any interest. Hopefully tonight...

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? reading or crafting somehow...I feel like that's the thing I fit into my day last and I hate it. I need to make more time for myself. 


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01-09-2013 at 7:28 AM
huntjul
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Cycle/Month: 4/4

CD:12

What are you doing this month?: All the usual... PNVs, OPKs, temping/charting, B6

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: Angry at being sick and having to miss work.  Gives me more bump time though!  Also is messing up my chart, grr!

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? I would spend it at the barn, riding my horse.


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01-09-2013 at 7:30 AM
CayleighDa...
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Cycle/Month: 2/2

CD:6

What are you doing this month?: Charting temps and CM, OPKs, green tea, lots of sex

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks:Really wish AF would GTFO so I can move on already. On day 6 of a usual 4 day flow. Not impressed.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Crafting. I've gotten away from it lately and want to get back.


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01-09-2013 at 7:32 AM
Miss_2010
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Cycle/Month: 3/2

CD: 1

What are you doing this month?: sex EOD maybe starting CD 7 or 9, then ED during fertile window probably days 11-15, OPKs again, temping, extra water.

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: Questions and clarifications...so Pom juice thickens uterine lining for better implantation?  Does raspberry leaf tea do anything when ttc?  And green tea increases CM?  Thanks

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? oh god...sleeping, like deep sleep type of sleeping...mmmm...but only on work days when my body actually WANTS the sleep.  Weekends I up early naturally

01-09-2013 at 7:35 AM
DA682
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Cycle/Month: 7

CD: 3

What are you doing this month?: probably pulling out all the stops- green tea, pom juice, opks, temping, as much sex as possible

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: none

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? probably exercising- I'd have no excuse to not do it! 




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01-09-2013 at 7:35 AM
kelle017
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Cycle/Month: 6

CD: 18

What are you doing this month?: so many things. The usual plus bona dea, lots of water, Pom juice. 

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: my temp has been going up, but I had + opk's the last few days and this morning it was almost +. I think today is o day.   Which is good because dh is tired of the sex.  We had a fight about it last night.  I get that it's not romantic to say we have to have sex because of timing.  I tried putting on cute lingerie, but he was still preferring to watch tv. 

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?

I'd probably play on the Internet, or watch tv.   




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01-09-2013 at 7:38 AM
MrsStuessy...
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Cycle/Month: 2/2

CD: 15

What are you doing this month?: mostly being annoyed, also PNVs, OPKs

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: well, I got another positive OPK yesterday. I had gotten my first OPK on Saturday. So, I was really hoping I O'ed on Sunday. I got another positive yesterday, so I may be O'ing today. I hope not, because then we had terrible timing. I wanted to get it on last night with DH, but he was tired and grumpy. I therefore became grumpy and tired. We can probably have sex tonight, but it isn't looking great. 

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? SLEEPING, so f'ing tired right now!

  


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01-09-2013 at 7:41 AM
DA682
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kelle017:

Cycle/Month: 6

CD: 18

What are you doing this month?: so many things. The usual plus bona dea, lots of water, Pom juice. 

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: my temp has been going up, but I had + opk's the last few days and this morning it was almost +. I think today is o day.   Which is good because dh is tired of the sex.  We had a fight about it last night.  I get that it's not romantic to say we have to have sex because of timing.  I tried putting on cute lingerie, but he was still preferring to watch tv. 

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?

I'd probably play on the Internet, or watch tv.   


 

I know how you feel. Last cycle was like that for us- almost all of the sex was out of obligation, not fun. DH got burned out towards the end. Hoping to avoid that this month but I'm not sure how! 



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01-09-2013 at 7:42 AM
Tamma254
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Cycle/Month: 11/11

CD: 9

What are you doing this month?: the usual, temping, sex, OPKs, checking CM and CP.

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: To early for any of that yet. But USPS needs to get me my wondfos, stat.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? With my insomnia issues, I'll take an extra hour of sleep, please and thank you.

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01-09-2013 at 7:47 AM
muzikgrrl
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Cycle/Month: 12/12

CD: 16

What are you doing this month?: Same stuff.

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: None. 

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?  I would spend it reading.




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01-09-2013 at 7:48 AM
pohare33
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Cycle/Month: 1 (officially on FF)

CD: 9

What are you doing this month?:  temping and charting for the first time

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: what's up with mouth breathing? does that make your temp not accurate in the morning?

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?
watching Downton Abbey, I'm newly obsessed


 
01-09-2013 at 7:49 AM
MrsMommyQ
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Cycle/Month: 4/4

CD:13

What are you doing this month?: opks and sex

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks I'm not temping and I got a dark OPK yesterday but I'm posting here bc I probably didn't O just yet.  I'm sick and soooo not in the mood but I think I have to suck it up and do the deed again today. We did it yesterday though. If you were me would do it again?

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Right now I'd clean up my house. It's a disaster area. It's not dirty, just messy with stuff all over. I'm not done taking christmas stuff down, there are toys everywhere....grrrr. 

 


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01-09-2013 at 7:54 AM
swirl25
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Happy Hump Day!

Cycle/Month: 4/5

CD: 6

What are you doing this month?: Temping, OPKs, PNVs, RRL and green teas, may give the Sperm Meets Egg method a try

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks:
I think my BBT is dying. Is it bad if I get a new one now? I'm only 2 temps in...

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?
Probably would want to use it to get things around the house done, but would end up playing with DD instead!

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01-09-2013 at 7:56 AM
SilverCB
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Cycle/Month: 5/5

CD: 28

What are you doing this month?: usual

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: I just wish I would O already.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Sleeping, I'm super tired right now and wish I was still in bed.


01-09-2013 at 7:59 AM
swirl25
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MrsMommyQ:

Cycle/Month: 4/4
CD:13
What are you doing this month?: opks and sex
Thoughts/vents/chart stalks I'm not temping and I got a dark OPK yesterday but I'm posting here bc I probably didn't O just yet.nbsp; I'm sick and soooo not in the mood but I think I have to suck it up and do the deed again today. We did it yesterday though. If you were me would do it again?GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Right now I'd clean up my house. It's a disaster area. It's not dirty, just messy with stuff all over. I'm not done taking christmas stuff down, there are toys everywhere....grrrr.nbsp; nbsp;


I did it last cycle through a mild UTI, and it didn't help me. Not worth it. I'd play it by ear and see how you feel later, but don't push yourself if you're feeling bad. You might be Oing today and then yesterday would be enough anyway! But I'd consider waiting till tomorrow.

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01-09-2013 at 8:02 AM
BrendaW09
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Cycle/Month: 5/6

CD: 33

What are you doing this month?: OPKs, temping, PNVs, sex EOD

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: I just wish I knew what was going on with this cycle.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Curled up with my husband on the couch with our puppy.  It just seems like we are so busy all the time, it would be nice just to have time to relax together.



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01-09-2013 at 8:04 AM
calindi
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Cycle/Month: 5 / 5

CD: 15

What are you doing this month?: sex ED, PNV, PreSeed, Mucinex, lots of water, exercise EOD

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: Hoping to O in the next day or so... Feeling really good about this month! :

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Exercising! It is so hard to fit into a normal day.




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01-09-2013 at 8:05 AM
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Good Morning! Happy Hump Day! too bad I wont be doing any humping! haha!
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Cycle/Month: 10/16

CD: 3

What are you doing this month?: I don't know yet. Hopefully will have a plan after today's appt with the RE.

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: I am ready to be back in the game.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Um..... Going for a walk with my husband and dogs or just cuddling with DH on the couch with a good tv show.

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01-09-2013 at 8:06 AM
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Cycle/Month: 4

CD:  2

What are you doing this month?:  OPK's and temping

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: Nothing

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?  Sleeping!



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01-09-2013 at 8:17 AM
kicius56
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Cycle/Month: 5/5

CD: 1

What are you doing this month?: Don't know yet. Definitely still temping and using OPKs.

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: Well, let's do this cycle 5!

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Cuddling and rough-housing with DS.

01-09-2013 at 8:19 AM
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Cycle/Month:  3/6

CD: 71

What are you doing this month?:  Temping, charting cm, pnv

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks:  I didn't sleep too well last night. I have a date with the vag cam today to check for cysts...yay.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?  Good question. I'm sure I'd find some way to waste it, either working, sleeping, or watching tv. If I were to productively use it, I'd probably work and cook/bake more.


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01-09-2013 at 8:34 AM
jchickiem
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Cycle/Month: Cycle 1 post miscarriage

CD: 15

What are you doing this month?: Temping/TTA

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: Not thinking much today.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Could I qualify this hour? If it were a solid hour and I had no responsibilities or expectations or interruptions, I would probably spend the time doing the things I can't seem to get done around the house. Maybe write more notes or send more cards to people. It is frustrating knowing how much needs to get done around here and how slowly the progress happens.


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01-09-2013 at 8:55 AM
femmepink
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Cycle/Month: 1 TTCAL/3

CD: 1

What are you doing this month?: temping, OPKs and checking CM.

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: sooo happy I'm off the TTA bench!

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Spending time with DH and my pup.

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01-09-2013 at 9:22 AM
kali55
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Cycle/Month: 1/1

CD: 16

What are you doing this month?: OPKs, temping

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: DS was up at 3:30 am yesterday and so I was up as well and couldn't get back to sleep for the life of me, so I missed another temping day.  I'm also finally seeing darker lines on my OPKs so I'm hopeful that I'm getting closer to O!

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it?  I don't know.  I feel pretty fulfilled by the end of the day, but since I'm going back to work on Monday, I would say that I would probably use my extra hour to play and cuddle with DS

 



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01-09-2013 at 9:25 AM
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 Happy Hump Day everyrone!

Cycle/Month: 6

CD: 19

What are you doing this month?:Same old + B6

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: I had a very very very close opk last night and a VERY negative one this morning.  My temp is absolutely all over the place, so it's really hard to tell, but I've had O pain since this morning.

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Sleeping in the morning!


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01-09-2013 at 9:38 AM
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Good morning, ladies.  Happy Hump Day! You too!

Cycle/Month: Cycle 19/Month 18...bleh!

CD:13

What are you doing this month?Clomid+trigger+IUI #1+progesterone

Thoughts/vents/chart stalks: just hoping this IUI works.  

GTKY: If you had an extra hour each day to spend however you wanted, how would you spend it? Probably sleeping...I love sleeping!



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BFP #1: 2/15/12-Ectopic/Mtx at 6 wks
BFP #2 10/12/12-m/c at 5 wks.
HSG all clear!! CD3 b/w normal. Urology appt all clear!
DH:MFI normal count (68mil) low motility (2%) and morph (9%)
Repeat SA: normal count (45.7mil), motility (47%) and low morph (1%), DNA frag: Excellent!
Me:MTHFR:Compound Heterozygous. On High Dose Folic Acid.
Cycle 17: Nov 2012: Clomid+ Trigger+ TI= BFN
Cycle 18: Dec 2012: Clomid+ Trigger+ TI+ progesterone= BFN
Cycle 19: Jan 2013: Clomid+ Trigger+ IUI #1+ TI+ progest =BFN
Cycle 20: Feb 2013: Clomid+ Trigger+ IUI #2+ TI+ progest =BFFN
Cycle 21: Mar 2013: Clomid+ Trigger+ IUI #3+ TI+ progest =BFN
Cycle 22: Apr 2013: Unmedicated TI+ progest =shocking BFN
Cycle 23: May 2013: Unmedicated TI+ progest=
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01-09-2013 at 9:38 AM
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month: 8

CD: 12

what are you doing this month?: charting, temping, opks, took clomid cd 5-9, praying, wishing, hoping, crossing fingers, and lots of sex.  

thoughts/vents/chart stalks: nothing really. kinda feeling discouraged, but i'm trying to be hopeful at the same time.

GTKY: if i had an extra hour, i like to think i would spend it exercising (since my excuse is always that i don't have enough time), but i would surely spend it sleeping or eating. ha.



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-March '13- clomid 150mg = BFN- 
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