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01-09-2013 at 8:05 PM
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sick of the unknown *kinda long*

So I had my u/s today and just my luck: there's nothing wrong. The u/s was to see if there were any cysts present on my ovaries, as I am not ovulating but three times a year-ish and so my cycles are never regular. My OBGYN thought I probably had PCOS which would explain everything, however, the BW and U/S showed nothing but good news. All my levels are normal, my ovaries and ute look "beautiful" apparently...I eye-rolled her when she said this as I think no innards should be called "beautiful"...yucky! 

Anyways, I teared up on the way home (partially because I have a damn sty in my eye and it's annoying the piss outta me) because I just wish they could find SOMETHING, anything, so that we can move forward to try and fix it. I'm so sick of not knowing wtf my body is doing!!! At this rate I feel like we'll never get KU. Yes, I know we just started trying last month, and that if I get this discouraged in month 2 I'll never make it out alive and that there are women out there that have been trying for years and still nothing, but it doesn't change the fact that it still sucks. 

  Her suggestion was that I should start keeping a journal of my cycles, and that any time they go over 40 days, to do the 10 day round with Progesterone. She also recommended using OPK's and BBT to try and track O. Also, she said I could try and lose 10 lbs to see if that helps at all. I'm not seriously overweight, but could stand to lose a few pounds. I'm hoping that something gives so that O comes and H and I can HIO to get KTFU. 

 

I'd love to hear from my fellow bumpies on how you keep it together with having undiagnosed infertility, long/irregular cycles, and/or keeping a cycle journal to watch for O. Also, where can I get cheaper OPK's in bulk since I'll have to be using them so frequently? 

TYIA!

 

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I hope I don't come off as a "wah wah baby" as H would say. I do realize that I should be greatful that I don't have anything seriously wrong with me, which I totally am, I'm just frustrated being in the dark. Hope I didn't "rub anyone the wrong way!"  

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01-09-2013 at 8:10 PM
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I agree you should temp and use OPKs to see what is going on.

go on Amazon and order Wondfos. They are cheap and work and you can get 50 and some HPTs for like $15.

Good luck. I see you use FF so keep tracking everything in there and make sure you are temping every day the same time every day before getting out of bed.


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01-09-2013 at 8:17 PM
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I don't have any advice I just wanted to say sorry you are going through this. It sounds so frustrating.

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01-09-2013 at 8:18 PM
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Sounds like your OB has you on the right track with charting.  Fertility friend has some great tutorials to teach you how to do it.  It's a great way to learn about what's going on with your body.  If you chart for a few months and realize that you are not Oing, I'd suggest talking to your doctor again.  Good luck!
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01-09-2013 at 8:25 PM
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Tigger- thank you for the advice on the wondfos, just put them in my shopping cart on amazon! 

Pugmom-Thank you. Your pug is the cutest!!

J-Thank you, I've been trying to keep up with FF, but before I felt it was pointless since I was getting temps all over the place. Now that I'm off the Progesterone, I'm hoping that after this forced AF, I'll have a cycle on my own next month.  

ETA: Typo, autocorrect changed pugmom to penguin. lol  

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01-09-2013 at 8:30 PM
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mrswilkening2b:
ETA: Typo, autocorrect changed pugmom to penguin. lol nbsp;


That totally made me laugh! Haha

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01-09-2013 at 8:30 PM
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Sorry for your frustration but please know you're not alone! Lots of us deal with similar issues. We all have good days and bad days (and months...and weeks) but this board is a great place to share your frustrations and get support. Agree with PP about FF's tutorials, TCOYF and temping and using OPKs just to get a better idea of what's going on.

 Good luck!

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01-09-2013 at 8:31 PM
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PPs covered everything I could think of...I will say that, in some ways, it was harder for me when I first started and knew something was wrong than it is now, a year and a half later. When I first started trying and wasn't Oing, the emotions were overwhelming and raw. I had no idea what to do with it all. I hope things get better for you. If you chart for a few months and know you aren't Oing, talk to your Dr again. I wish I hadn't gone an entire year without Oing before seeing an RE. Also, blogging/writing helps to get your thoughts out and organize the emotions. It helped me.

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01-09-2013 at 8:48 PM
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Hello dear... I just wanted to say to hang in there.  I don't care whether you are upset after 1 month of trying or over a year.  Wanting to have a baby and it not happening is hard no matter where you are in the journey.  This is our 11th cycle of trying and yes each month aunt flow comes is more upsetting than the one before.  I am still trying to deal with the fact that it hasn't happened yet.  Just keep your chin up and distract yourself with a hobby... or something.  I definitely have days that are better than others, but if you don't put it out of your mind a little bit it will just upset you more and more.  There for a while I was just constantly counting the days and looking at my chart to see where we went wrong.  It gets exhausting.

 I wish you the best!
 
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01-09-2013 at 8:48 PM
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boo for the unexplained. I'm sorry you're having a tough time. just wanted to second PPs with the whole charting thing, and add that wondfos rule. I hope it all gets easier for you. hang in there!!

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01-09-2013 at 9:43 PM
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Sounds like you are in good hands with your OB. Agree wth PPs, charting and temping (especially when you are irregular) may help you feel less helpless. Knowing exactly when you O is great and fertilityfriend is such a helpful (and addictive) website.

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01-09-2013 at 10:34 PM
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I can't see siggies on mobile, was your bloodwork done on CD3? It's not reliable for diagnosis of PCOS if not. You can have PCOS and not have cysts on your ovaries. I know that sounds weird since cysts are in the name but it's a syndrome that could be diagnosed with a number of different factors.

I agree with temping and charting since you are only on month 2, just some thoughts around the bloodwork timing if you find yourself still annovulatory later on.
 
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01-09-2013 at 10:38 PM
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Shayliz:
I can't see siggies on mobile, was your bloodwork done on CD3? It's not reliable for diagnosis of PCOS if not. You can have PCOS and not have cysts on your ovaries. I know that sounds weird since cysts are in the name but it's a syndrome that could be diagnosed with a number of different factors. I agree with temping and charting since you are only on month 2, just some thoughts around the bloodwork timing if you find yourself still annovulatory later on.

 

It was not on cycle day 3 and at my last appt, I had asked her about that being a factor and she said she wasn't concerned. She also said that if I went longer than 40 days to keep doing the 10 days of provera a month for four months, and if nothing still, then to come back in for more tests before deciding a different route. So I'm assuming after the four months, if nothing happens, that she'll want to run more BW. It's just hard since I don't seem to O, so she wouldn't know when to run the BW.  

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01-10-2013 at 7:20 AM
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I don't have much for advice but wanted to offer :::hugs:::

Whenever I get super frustrated with things that are completely out of my control I go for a walk with DH.  Even just around the block, sometimes we talk, sometimes we don't say anything-just walk, its just relaxing and comforting to go for a quiet stroll and have him next to me.  Helps clear my head.
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01-10-2013 at 7:32 AM
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How do you know that you only ovulate 3 times a year if you don't temp use OPKs and have only been ttc for a month? I really hope I'm missing something or you are a real piece of work.



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01-10-2013 at 7:46 AM
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Welcome to life, honey.  It is full of unknowns.

I think you need to take your DRs advice, which is good and calm the heck down!  You have been TTC for 2 months.  You have no idea if you'll have a hard time getting pregnant or not.  Having the DX of PCOS doesn't mean you'll automatically have a hard time anyway.

Do some research and start temping. 

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01-10-2013 at 7:54 AM
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KdgTeacher:

Welcome to life, honey.  It is full of unknowns.

I think you need to take your DRs advice, which is good and calm the heck down!  You have been TTC for 2 months.  You have no idea if you'll have a hard time getting pregnant or not.  Having the DX of PCOS doesn't mean you'll automatically have a hard time anyway.

Do some research and start temping. 

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You can alleviate some of the "unknowns" by taking advantages of resources available to you.   Temp consistently, not like the few temps you have from your first month. Use OPKs correctly.  Research your diagnosis and fertility - do not just rely on an internet message board.  Visit soulcysters.com as a PCOS resource.  And get a blog - you can vent and be all 'wah wah' baby there about whatever you want, innards and all.  GL.

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01-10-2013 at 9:51 AM
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Adam&Eve2:
How do you know that you only ovulate 3 times a year if you don't temp use OPKs and have only been ttc for a month? I really hope I'm missing something or you are a real piece of work.

 

It was a typo, my bad. Should say "i'm not ovulating, but having periods three times a year-ish." 

Either way I guess I don't know one way or the other. My dr just chalked it up to not ovulating since I haven't in months and haven't had any regularity in almost two years.  

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01-10-2013 at 9:55 AM
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KdgTeacher:

Welcome to life, honey.  It is full of unknowns.

I think you need to take your DRs advice, which is good and calm the heck down!  You have been TTC for 2 months.  You have no idea if you'll have a hard time getting pregnant or not.  Having the DX of PCOS doesn't mean you'll automatically have a hard time anyway.

Do some research and start temping. 

I wasn't DX with anything. That's why I was kind of upset. She found no signs of any PCOS, but will more than likely try and run more BW in a few months after I've been temping, taking prenatals, and using OPKs. Plus, I haven't had a period since August, which is why I feel I'll have a difficult time. It's a little hard to get KU when my eggs aren't being released.  

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01-10-2013 at 9:58 AM
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mrswilkening2b:
KdgTeacher:

Welcome to life, honey.  It is full of unknowns.

I think you need to take your DRs advice, which is good and calm the heck down!  You have been TTC for 2 months.  You have no idea if you'll have a hard time getting pregnant or not.  Having the DX of PCOS doesn't mean you'll automatically have a hard time anyway.

Do some research and start temping. 

I wasn't DX with anything. That's why I was kind of upset. She found no signs of any PCOS, but will more than likely try and run more BW in a few months after I've been temping, taking prenatals, and using OPKs. Plus, I haven't had a period since August, which is why I feel I'll have a difficult time. It's a little hard to get KU when my eggs aren't being released.  

So you want to be infertile?  Nice.  You say you've been temping but I only see 2 very incomplete charts on your FF page.  So unless I'm missing something I agree with KDG you need to chill out!  Lots of people get pregnant with long cycles. If you've had all this testing done I assume your DH has had an SA as well?  How did that turn out?

ETA:  Reading fail about the temping.  Great decision to start with that.
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01-10-2013 at 10:00 AM
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mrswilkening2b:
KdgTeacher:

Welcome to life, honey.  It is full of unknowns.

I think you need to take your DRs advice, which is good and calm the heck down!  You have been TTC for 2 months.  You have no idea if you'll have a hard time getting pregnant or not.  Having the DX of PCOS doesn't mean you'll automatically have a hard time anyway.

Do some research and start temping. 

I wasn't DX with anything. That's why I was kind of upset. She found no signs of any PCOS, but will more than likely try and run more BW in a few months after I've been temping, taking prenatals, and using OPKs. Plus, I haven't had a period since August, which is why I feel I'll have a difficult time. It's a little hard to get KU when my eggs aren't being released.  

You were not diagnosed with anything because you just started TTC 2 months ago and there's not enough data yet to know whether or not there is a problem.  Don't borrow trouble.  Do what your doctor is telling you do to and in time, hopefully things will become more clear.
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