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01-13-2013 at 4:15 PM
Lacyj67
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DH having hard time

Hey ladies just wanted to see if any of your DHs were lashing out a bit in any ways due to IF??
Last night we were at dinner with friends and they have 10 and 11 yr olds who were with us and a few of there friends. Behind at another table there was a few couples eating with like 6 kids under 2 yrs old all eating at a table. He had his back to them and I was facing the table. The wife of our friend was sitting next to me and we were talking bout how adorable these two blonde 2 yr old twins at the other table were and my DH kinda blurted out something like can we please not talk about kids right now... And said it pretty rude I got embarrassed for him and me and just dropped the subject after that. And didn't bring it up after we got home .... I think it kinda shocked me because he's never done that before... So would you talk to your DH about it today or just leave it alone ???

Me 32 and DH 37 married in aug. 2002 Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 IVF #1 May 2012 ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN Hysteroscopy 7/12/12 D&C preformed and one Polyp removed MINI IVF Oct.2012 Cancelled 10-27-12 Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013 Ivf #3 Cancelled April 22nd 2013 Hopefully when the healing begins we will move on to DE. Everyone Welcome  
01-13-2013 at 4:29 PM
BellaLux
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If it is bothering you, perhaps you should definitely bring it up to see what his thoughts are. I know IF can be so consuming at times, maybe he viewed the dinner last night as a break from all of it---hence no "baby/kid" talk

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01-13-2013 at 4:50 PM
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If it bothers you then talk to him.  Mine actually bought abook called "What to expect When She's Not Expecting.  I am not sure if it would help him.  But it seems like it is helping my husband not put his foot in his mouth so much with me and helped him put things in prespective.  There are some sample pages on Amazon.  You might need some counseling if it continues - they say IF is similar on your emotions to fighting a life threatening illness and people react differently.  I hope that I did not offend you by suggesting this.  It is just so much harder than anyone (including myself) understands.

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01-13-2013 at 5:00 PM
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He's gotten better with time, but YES.  The hardest point for us was after his last SA, when we found out the surgery didn't work and the Azoo diagnosis was confirmed, DH became super jealous and agitated if I was around male friends/co-workers.  It wasn't like him at all.  It made sense to my therapist side: no sperm= all men with sperm are a threat.  But my wife wise was not very amused.  It took a few weeks but eventually tapered off.

I've got to say though, as far as the dinner goes I've been your DH before.  If I'm having a bad IF day and it feels like I'm surrounded by baby stuff, I can think of more than once that I've been blunt about needing to get away from it.  I imagine you've had those moments too.  Cut him some slack.  There will be days you want him to return the favor.


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01-13-2013 at 5:10 PM
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Before DH was dx with Azoo I bought him "How to make love to a plastic cup" It's a very comically written book, that deals with emotions and the whole process.He and I highly recommend it.

After the Azoo dx DH had a hard time even seeing children, we got better with it together, now after our loss we are right back where we started. Kid/baby talk is not good. Just give him time its a giant blow to a guys manhood to have to go through all of this MFI or not. 


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01-13-2013 at 5:49 PM
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Bella, kind of nailed it on the head I think, I think he prob. viewed dinner as an escape from all the reminders of IF. Men don't talk openly usually about what they are feeling and going through. You can mention it, and maybe then just keep it moving. He prob. felt bad. Big hugs to you guys IF can be so hard to escape.

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01-13-2013 at 5:56 PM
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We are dealing with all MIF, and I know it's had my husband upset before. He's made remarks cutting himself down occasionally when we would be discussing options and stress and money involved...etc ...had a few moments when we cried together...The best thing I can say is I always refer to it as "our infertility" issues, and "we are going to get through this"...I dont want him feeling like I blame him...not saying that's how you made your DH feel or anything, but I know how I would feel if it were all the issues we couldnt conceive were to do with me...and how badly I'd feel...so I think just always reminding your DH you love him and you're in this together, will help. Can't say there won't be moments like at the restaurant ever again, but I'd say talk to him about it and just continue to reassure him. It'll be ok! Best of luck!

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01-13-2013 at 7:49 PM
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Amyou06:
We are dealing with all MIF, and I know it's had my husband upset before. He's made remarks cutting himself down occasionally when we would be discussing options and stress and money involved...etc ...had a few moments when we cried together...The best thing I can say is I always refer to it as "our infertility" issues, and "we are going to get through this"...I dont want him feeling like I blame him...not saying that's how you made your DH feel or anything, but I know how I would feel if it were all the issues we couldnt conceive were to do with me...and how badly I'd feel...so I think just always reminding your DH you love him and you're in this together, will help. Can't say there won't be moments like at the restaurant ever again, but I'd say talk to him about it and just continue to reassure him. It'll be ok! Best of luck!

 

I completely agree with you "Amyyou"!! Amy--we also have very similar issues it seems.  Hope all is going well so far with your cycle!!


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01-13-2013 at 8:13 PM
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Talk about it. His feelings may need validation or at the very least, maybe he just needs to be heard. If MFI is a part of your IF dx, he may be especially sensitive to the whole IF process and what it means about his masculinity...
Men are so often overlooked in all of this.

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01-13-2013 at 10:29 PM
Lacyj67
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Thanks ladies. We had a little hot tub session and we talked a bit not really about last night but about how we feel when we are around lots of other people with kids. He feels jealous alot. All our IF issues really have to do with my DOR he has no sperm issues so I know it is hard for him knowing how much I hurt and I think we worked it out.
Thanks for all the book suggestions . My DH is so not a reader but the one cuddle suggested sounds hilarious!!!!

Me 32 and DH 37 married in aug. 2002 Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 IVF #1 May 2012 ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN Hysteroscopy 7/12/12 D&C preformed and one Polyp removed MINI IVF Oct.2012 Cancelled 10-27-12 Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013 Ivf #3 Cancelled April 22nd 2013 Hopefully when the healing begins we will move on to DE. Everyone Welcome  
01-14-2013 at 11:03 AM
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I'm sorry he's having a tough time. In the beginning, DH didn't really open up much about his feelings and it ended up manifesting itself in anger most of the time. Now that we've been on this road for a while, he talks about how he feels much more freely and how it is incredibly hard for him to see little kids, go to family functions, etc. He even asked that we don't hang stockings by the fireplace for Christmas because it was too painful to see. Our men hurt just as much as we do, they just don't show it or talk about it. IF is one of those horrible things that both people experience and are hurting at the same time, unlike other things where one spouse is hurting and the other can be the rock.

I'm sure you know this already, but just in case you dont....hot tubs are spermageddon for sperm and if you're TTC using his it's probably a good idea for him to stay out of them. It royally sucks but it's part of it. :( We bought a new hot tub right before TTC and it was insult to injury for DH to not be able to go in it and have to sit on the side. Now that his sperm is no longer in the picture (we are using donor embryos) hot tub time has been a great place for him to open up about his feelings! I don't know what it is but DH and I have more heart to hearts in the hot tub than anywhere else in the house.

Big hug, As IF wasn't bad enough on its own, watching your husband hurt over it makes it a million times harder.


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01-14-2013 at 11:48 AM
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Me, I would talk to him about it. Especially if it's bothering you. He could just be upset and just doesn't know how to deal with it or talk to you about it. Maybe if you bring it up. DH and I always try to check-in with each other to see how we are doing. I know that he went through a period last year where his office was throwing a baby shower almost every week, even for the men in the office who's wives at home were expecting, not just the women who work there, and he got really upset one day when he just didn't want to go to one, but another co-worker dragged him there. I think being opening with each other really helps, and I know MH sometimes goes through these spirts because he doesn't know how to bring it up to me and he's trying so hard to be the strong for me and sometimes it's easy to forget that this can really affect our husbands too. 

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01-14-2013 at 1:28 PM
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I would at least bring it up and see if he wants to talk about it, but I wouldn't be mad at him.  But to answer your question, yes, when we rec'd our IF dx, MH did react pretty strongly.  He tried to push me away pretty intensely for about two months before he could talk about it. 



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