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01-28-2013 at 12:57 AM
amandamor
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Third hand smoke

Okay! So I am the ultimate spazz when it comes to making sure I take ever precaution when it comes to protecting my baby from SIDS once he gets here. It just scares the crap out of me. I just recently washed all of his clothes, bedding, everything and was finally relieved that everything was taken care of.
Today I came home to DH smoking in the house!!!!! He had the window open, which I know doesnt make any difference. I immediately freaked out cause LOs clothes are right in the hall closet near where he was smoking! We HAD a smoke free home til today, he never smokes inside and never will again, thats for sure. But I recently read that third hand smoke cigarette particles left over in clothing,furniture,carpet, etc is also a sids risk. I cannot help but worry now. I am so heavy, and uncomfortable rewashing and putting EVERYTHING away again will literally take a ridiculous toll on me.
Do you think this is something I need to do just for LOs safety from the third hand smoke?
Or am I just wayyyy too paranoid right now?

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01-28-2013 at 2:35 AM
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I think you should relax. Do not wash everything again. It will be fine. 

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01-28-2013 at 3:35 AM
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Personally, I say make him do it as punishment, Big Smile

 I also read the research on this and was specifically thinking of my dad who reeked of cigarette smoke as a grew up. Knowing now that the toxins are on the clothing, I am having similar misgivings and am totally wanting to play the "new baby = great excuse to quit" card. If your DH is a smoker, he will have smoke residue on his clothing in much larger quantities than what got on the baby clothes. That would be more what I would be concerned about.

 I think you have to do what is best for you and what you feel more comfortable with, but if your DH is going to smoke and then hold the baby, really he has the larger risk factor.


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01-28-2013 at 7:03 AM
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lil fox:

Personally, I say make him do it as punishment.

This.

Your H is an effing idiot for smoking in the house. Why would he do that, especially if you've been a smoke free home until that point?

Third hand smoke does pose a risk, yes. The chemicals that are released when one smokes a cigarettes latches on to the clothing and hands of the smoker and, if said person were to go to your LO, the chemicals can be transferred to your LO's skin/your LO can breathe in those chemicals. If your H insists on smoking, he needs to have a routine for preventative measures but he also needs to know that those are not guaranteed. As long as he smokes, he will pose a larger risk for your LO. 


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01-28-2013 at 7:09 AM
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dande2129:
lil fox:

Personally, I say make him do it as punishment.

This.

Your H is an effing idiot for smoking in the house. Why would he do that, especially if you've been a smoke free home until that point?

Third hand smoke does pose a risk, yes. The chemicals that are released when one smokes a cigarettes latches on to the clothing and hands of the smoker and, if said person were to go to your LO, the chemicals can be transferred to your LO's skin/your LO can breathe in those chemicals. If your H insists on smoking, he needs to have a routine for preventative measures but he also needs to know that those are not guaranteed. As long as he smokes, he will pose a larger risk for your LO. 


This.

And if having a newborn in the house isn't motivation to quit, I don't know what is.

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01-28-2013 at 7:14 AM
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drpayne:
dande2129:
lil fox:

Personally, I say make him do it as punishment.

This.

Your H is an effing idiot for smoking in the house. Why would he do that, especially if you've been a smoke free home until that point?

Third hand smoke does pose a risk, yes. The chemicals that are released when one smokes a cigarettes latches on to the clothing and hands of the smoker and, if said person were to go to your LO, the chemicals can be transferred to your LO's skin/your LO can breathe in those chemicals. If your H insists on smoking, he needs to have a routine for preventative measures but he also needs to know that those are not guaranteed. As long as he smokes, he will pose a larger risk for your LO. 

This. And if having a newborn in the house isn't motivation to quit, I don't know what is.

 

Oh, everybody chill.  For generations, people smoked around their children. (and even while pregnant). Is it generally unhealthy, yes. It is worth making a huge deal over for one cig while baby is not even born yet?  Not even close. I'd still yell at him,mbut rewashing everything is a broad overreaction.   

 
01-28-2013 at 7:24 AM
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PeanutR1:
drpayne:
dande2129:
lil fox:

Personally, I say make him do it as punishment.

This.

Your H is an effing idiot for smoking in the house. Why would he do that, especially if you've been a smoke free home until that point?

Third hand smoke does pose a risk, yes. The chemicals that are released when one smokes a cigarettes latches on to the clothing and hands of the smoker and, if said person were to go to your LO, the chemicals can be transferred to your LO's skin/your LO can breathe in those chemicals. If your H insists on smoking, he needs to have a routine for preventative measures but he also needs to know that those are not guaranteed. As long as he smokes, he will pose a larger risk for your LO. 

This. And if having a newborn in the house isn't motivation to quit, I don't know what is.

 

Oh, everybody chill.  For generations, people smoked around their children. (and even while pregnant). Is it generally unhealthy, yes. It is worth making a huge deal over for one cig while baby is not even born yet?  Not even close. I'd still yell at him,mbut rewashing everything is a broad overreaction.   

LOL. Okay. I'd be livid if someone smoked in my house whether I was pregnant or not. That aside, the issue isn't the one cigarette that he smoked in the house, but the issue of third hand smoke.  


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01-28-2013 at 7:33 AM
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PeanutR1:
drpayne:
dande2129:
lil fox:

Personally, I say make him do it as punishment.

This.

Your H is an effing idiot for smoking in the house. Why would he do that, especially if you've been a smoke free home until that point?

Third hand smoke does pose a risk, yes. The chemicals that are released when one smokes a cigarettes latches on to the clothing and hands of the smoker and, if said person were to go to your LO, the chemicals can be transferred to your LO's skin/your LO can breathe in those chemicals. If your H insists on smoking, he needs to have a routine for preventative measures but he also needs to know that those are not guaranteed. As long as he smokes, he will pose a larger risk for your LO. 


This.

And if having a newborn in the house isn't motivation to quit, I don't know what is.

 

Oh, everybody chill.  For generations, people smoked around their children. (and even while pregnant). Is it generally unhealthy, yes. It is worth making a huge deal over for one cig while baby is not even born yet?  Not even close. I'd still yell at him,mbut rewashing everything is a broad overreaction.   



The cigarettes made back in the day did not contain the same harsh chemicals as they are made with now

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01-28-2013 at 8:36 AM
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dande2129:
lil fox:

Personally, I say make him do it as punishment.

This.

Your H is an effing idiot for smoking in the house. Why would he do that, especially if you've been a smoke free home until that point?

Third hand smoke does pose a risk, yes. The chemicals that are released when one smokes a cigarettes latches on to the clothing and hands of the smoker and, if said person were to go to your LO, the chemicals can be transferred to your LO's skin/your LO can breathe in those chemicals. If your H insists on smoking, he needs to have a routine for preventative measures but he also needs to know that those are not guaranteed. As long as he smokes, he will pose a larger risk for your LO. 

I agree with all of this. And he really needs to consider the bolded part. As well, his smoking makes it more likely that your LO will smoke one day too.

 
01-28-2013 at 8:40 AM
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RussianMommy:
PeanutR1:
drpayne:
dande2129:
lil fox:

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Oh, everybody chill.  For generations, people smoked around their children. (and even while pregnant). Is it generally unhealthy, yes. It is worth making a huge deal over for one cig while baby is not even born yet?  Not even close. I'd still yell at him,mbut rewashing everything is a broad overreaction.   

This is not a good reason to just relax. People did a lot of really stupid things for generations. Now that we know better we should do better.

 
01-28-2013 at 9:06 AM
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blush64:
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PeanutR1:
drpayne:
dande2129:
lil fox:

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Oh, everybody chill.  For generations, people smoked around their children. (and even while pregnant). Is it generally unhealthy, yes. It is worth making a huge deal over for one cig while baby is not even born yet?  Not even close. I'd still yell at him,mbut rewashing everything is a broad overreaction.   

This is not a good reason to just relax. People did a lot of really stupid things for generations. Now that we know better we should do better.

 

I never said we shouldn't do better. I'm saying that that it's crazy to re wash everything b/c someone smoked around it ever. The same way I side eye moms as I watch them wipe down every surface befor their kid gets near it, or get so worried about food allergies with no family history/reason (which were never a problem when kids just ate what was given to them). My SIL cant BELIEVE her kid doesnt like peanut butter, when she waited till he was 2 to give it to him.  Well, duh.  Look at the hygiene hypothesis if you have time...

 
01-28-2013 at 9:48 AM
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dande2129:
PeanutR1:
drpayne:
dande2129:
lil fox:

Personally, I say make him do it as punishment.

This.

Your H is an effing idiot for smoking in the house. Why would he do that, especially if you've been a smoke free home until that point?

Third hand smoke does pose a risk, yes. The chemicals that are released when one smokes a cigarettes latches on to the clothing and hands of the smoker and, if said person were to go to your LO, the chemicals can be transferred to your LO's skin/your LO can breathe in those chemicals. If your H insists on smoking, he needs to have a routine for preventative measures but he also needs to know that those are not guaranteed. As long as he smokes, he will pose a larger risk for your LO. 

This. And if having a newborn in the house isn't motivation to quit, I don't know what is.

 

Oh, everybody chill.  For generations, people smoked around their children. (and even while pregnant). Is it generally unhealthy, yes. It is worth making a huge deal over for one cig while baby is not even born yet?  Not even close. I'd still yell at him,mbut rewashing everything is a broad overreaction.   

LOL. Okay. I'd be livid if someone smoked in my house whether I was pregnant or not. That aside, the issue isn't the one cigarette that he smoked in the house, but the issue of third hand smoke.  

agree with everything except PeanutR1...

third hand smoke around a baby is almost like letting them eat out of an ash tray ie they touch clothes with ash, hand goes to mouth, chemicals in ash go into mouth voila third hand smoke...

we wouldn't let anyone who had smoked hold LO unless they changed clothes and washed up first... we still won't let him around smokers; would we be this anal retentive about it if he wasn't at a super increased risk for asthma? maybe not quite as much, but it's still a really big issue for us.... 

OP: this is a super good reason for your H to stop :) I would have blown a gasket if I had come home to that... make him rewash everything---- great suggestion PP!


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01-28-2013 at 10:08 AM
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an article that you might show DH... sorry it's not a link

http://www2.aap.org/richmondcenter/DangerFromThirdhandSmoke.html 


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01-28-2013 at 10:21 AM
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PeanutR1:
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lil fox:

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I never said we shouldn't do better. I'm saying that that it's crazy to re wash everything b/c someone smoked around it ever. The same way I side eye moms as I watch them wipe down every surface befor their kid gets near it, or get so worried about food allergies with no family history/reason (which were never a problem when kids just ate what was given to them). My SIL cant BELIEVE her kid doesnt like peanut butter, when she waited till he was 2 to give it to him.  Well, duh.  Look at the hygiene hypothesis if you have time...

Third hand smoke will be on clothes, furniture or anything someone has smoked around. I do not think one cigarette has a big chance of harming the baby but the fact that he was ok with smoking in a place the baby will be is not ok with me.

You can't really compare smoking with everything else you have mentioned. It's just not the same and it's not what I was referring to. Smoke in any amount is not ok.

 

 
01-28-2013 at 10:26 AM
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PeanutR1:
blush64:
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PeanutR1:
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dande2129:
lil fox:

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I never said we shouldn't do better. I'm saying that that it's crazy to re wash everything b/c someone smoked around it ever. The same way I side eye moms as I watch them wipe down every surface befor their kid gets near it, or get so worried about food allergies with no family history/reason (which were never a problem when kids just ate what was given to them). My SIL cant BELIEVE her kid doesnt like peanut butter, when she waited till he was 2 to give it to him.  Well, duh.  Look at the hygiene hypothesis if you have time...

Third hand smoke will be on clothes, furniture or anything someone has smoked around. I do not think one cigarette has a big chance of harming the baby but the fact that he was ok with smoking in a place the baby will be is not ok with me.

You can't really compare smoking with everything else you have mentioned. It's just not the same and it's not what I was referring to. Smoke in any amount is not ok.

 

 

I just hope you all live in rural areas with wide open spaces. I'd hate to see the Looks on your faces when a NYC bus drives by your stroller... All that is in a city environment would send you ino straight paranoia.  

 
01-28-2013 at 10:39 AM
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I just hope you all live in rural areas with wide open spaces. I'd hate to see the Looks on your faces when a NYC bus drives by your stroller... All that is in a city environment would send you ino straight paranoia.  

you've missed the point... yes are things going to happen that we can't control such as the bus driving by the stroller? absolutely, but smoking in an area where the baby will be is pure irresponsibility... knowing that if he's done it once and got away with it, he's more likely to do it again because you didn't say anything...

THS is showing up as worse than SHS in many articles because you are actually eating the carcinogens that are left over rather than breathing in smoke that eventually goes away... your house is supposed to be your safe place... what I would expect in NYC I don't expect in my home...


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01-28-2013 at 10:46 AM
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I just hope you all live in rural areas with wide open spaces. I'd hate to see the Looks on your faces when a NYC bus drives by your stroller... All that is in a city environment would send you ino straight paranoia.  

. your house is supposed to be your safe place... what I would expect in NYC I don't expect in my home...

I think you've missed MY point. She asked if it was overly paranoid to re wash everything after catching him once. I answered: yes.  I don't think anyone should smoke in a house with a baby.  

As to your comment above, I say.   U,mm, unless you live in the city and have ever opened your window. Then yes, NYC is in your home. MILLIONS of people have done it.  Not every person who grew up in a "dirty" city died or got sick from it.  Again, I just think some things are a bit overkill these days. 

 
01-28-2013 at 12:28 PM
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dande2129:
lil fox:

Personally, I say make him do it as punishment.

This.

Your H is an effing idiot for smoking in the house. Why would he do that, especially if you've been a smoke free home until that point?

Third hand smoke does pose a risk, yes. The chemicals that are released when one smokes a cigarettes latches on to the clothing and hands of the smoker and, if said person were to go to your LO, the chemicals can be transferred to your LO's skin/your LO can breathe in those chemicals. If your H insists on smoking, he needs to have a routine for preventative measures but he also needs to know that those are not guaranteed. As long as he smokes, he will pose a larger risk for your LO. 

I agree with all of this. And he really needs to consider the bolded part. As well, his smoking makes it more likely that your LO will smoke one day too.

This. AND his continued smoking puts him at a higher risk of death and leaving his child fatherless. I'm not trying to blow smoke up your A$$ either. I work as an ER nurse, I've seen A LOT of people have heart attacks/strokes in their 30's. Smoking is a huge modifialbe risk factor. My husband is now 1 year and 2 days clean from nicotine, and I'm so proud of him. It's not easy, but smoking is one of the most stupid things you can do if you give a crap about your life and your family's lives.


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01-28-2013 at 1:13 PM
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I take third hand smoke seriously but it sounds like you've done what needs to be done and now you need to relax. Maybe give your husband some information to read regarding why it's dangerous. 

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