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01-28-2013 at 10:59 AM
liz4paws
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Irrational Fear? Embryos dying during thaw

I'm REALLY trying not to worry about our upcoming FET. But my biggest most terrible fear is that all five of our donated embryos don't survive the thaw. Thinking about that literally takes my breath away.

They were frozen in 2003 and I know freezing techniques have changed since then. They have also been shipped from Virginia to Texas.  I seriously keep picturing us driving up to the clinic on Feb 11th and getting "that call" where the RE tells me they all didn't make it. My RE says not to worry. He says it's possible, but unlikely. Still, I can't shake it!

Can someone talk some sense into me? Does anyone else have this fear? Anything that makes you feel better about it?


Me (31) DH (35) - Finding our path to baby #1
Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR
DH: Severe MFI
12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN
8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)
My ovaries seem to be just for decoration

12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
2/11/13 - Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts.

2/16/13 - First BFP of my life!
3/27/13 - No heartbeat at 9w0d. D&C the following day.

4/23/13 - Matched to adopt five new embryos!

My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake

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01-28-2013 at 11:00 AM
BootsOrHea...
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I'm sure most of them will make it.

Deep breaths! You have no control over it so try not to worry.

*hugs*



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TTC since January, 2011 | Me: 39, DH: 38 |DX: DOR and Uterine Fibroids | Natural BFP#1 January 31, 2012 | Harrison Gray born sleeping @ 18w6d on May 11, 2012 | Three surgeries and 26 fibroids later. . . | Natural cycle = BFN | 2 medicated cycles = BFN | IUI#1 = BFN | IUI#2 = Cancelled due to poor response | IVF#1=BFP#2 EDD Oct. 29, 2013, C/P 2/25/13, Bye little Ish | Natural cycle = BFP#3, Beta 1=1250, Beta 2=2230, EDD 12/21/13, Hello Izzy!|
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01-28-2013 at 11:08 AM
solisilou
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I know nothing we say can shake away your fears because they're very natural and understandable. But your embies did make it to freeze back then, that means those embies must be tough and they definitely have good chances of surviving the thaw. We're all here rooting for them!

Me 32 / DH 36
TTC since 08/2010
Me: Lap in 2007 due to pelvic pain: Dx mild endo
Lap in 2011: ovarian cyst and endo removal
2 Clomid cycles: good response but both BFN
borderline high anti-cardiolipin IgM Abs - now on baby aspirin
DH: S/A low all three - unexplained

IVF/ICSI #1: 06/2012 11R/11M/9F 2dt of one 4-cell embie - BFP,
beta hell, U/S hell, m/c and D&C at 9w6d
FET #1: 10/2012 3dt of one 10-cell embie - BFN
FET #2: 11/2012 2dt of one 2-cell embie - BFN
FET #3: 01/2013 3dt of one 6-cell embie - BFN
IVF/ICSI #2: 02/2013 14R/13M/7F 5dt of one blast 2/16 - BFP,
beta hell, m/c at 5w3d
FET #4: 04/2013 5dt of 2 morulas - BFN
FET #5: 05/2013


 
01-28-2013 at 11:14 AM
DoublePort...
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No advice, but ((hugs)) and I'm praying for peace for you!

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AMH .97 as of 4/2012!
Him: 27 ~ perfect swimmers
Laparotomy with partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo. Stopped BC 4/2010.
Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN
IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN
Occasionally using acupuncture.
IVF #1:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embies txfrd. ~ BFN
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01-28-2013 at 11:14 AM
Lacyj67
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Just trying to send the positive vibes your way girlie! I hope this is the one for you! Try some projects until then! I know I would be nervous to that is so understandable. This is so out of your control it just is gonna be what it's gonna be!! Good luck and I hope with all my heart that this is your time!!!! GL

Me 32 and DH 37 married in aug. 2002 Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 IVF #1 May 2012 ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN Hysteroscopy 7/12/12 D&C preformed and one Polyp removed MINI IVF Oct.2012 Cancelled 10-27-12 Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013 Ivf #3 Cancelled April 22nd 2013 Hopefully when the healing begins we will move on to DE. Everyone Welcome  
01-28-2013 at 11:46 AM
firesiren
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Liz, I know you are going to worry anyways but you cannot change whatever is going to happen.  I hope your snowflakes thaw perfectly.  Prayers for you and sending tons of ((HUGS))!

You are not alone in this fear.  My next cycle is my last and I'm so scared.  Remember this infertility stuff isn't for the weak. 


Me; 35 DH 32 TTC for over 2 years First mini-IVF Sept 2011... Only 1 egg! ... BFN Switching RE IVF#2 May 2012 9 eggs and only 2 sperm, WTH! BFN IVF#3 Chemical... FML. 2 frosties. SAIF/PAIF ALWAYS WELCOME!!!!!
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01-28-2013 at 11:51 AM
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I get it. ::hugs::


* Me- 32 * DH- 32 * TTC for 4 Years
* *IUIs 1-6 BFN*
*IVF #1= BFP- M/C *FET- * *Beta#1: 69 *Beta#2:482 *Beta#3 1088
*Beta#4 28,318 * Ultrasound- 1 beautiful heartbeat
IT'S A BOY!!! MAX LIAM
 
01-28-2013 at 12:25 PM
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I don't think it is irrational at all. It does happen unfortunately. Also, there is no way to not worry. Until you get to ET and see what you have, you will worry. Then you will worry about the quality and whether they will implant. There is no escape from worry. Buckle up as it is a bumpy ride!!! Hugs. 



TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:39 and BRCA1+, DH:45
DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#5 11/12 bad embryos= BFFN
FINAL DE IVF #6 1/13: cancelled as second donor backed out during stims
Was added last minute as 3rd recipient to new donor on 1/18; ET1/23/13
2/1/13 BFP for the first time ever; Beta hell for several weeks: miscarriage 7 wks
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01-28-2013 at 12:33 PM
Km672
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Oh Liz, I wish I could take all of this worry away! No, it's not irrational, but fortunately, it's highly unlikely! After all you have been through, it's hard to not constantly worry about the worst case scenario, I know I constantly do. Fingers crossed you are pleasantly surprised at ET and even more so thereafter!

Me (31) DOR/ MH (34) azoo/high DFI TTC#1 since 2009 IVF #1 cancelled dt poor response/ IVF #2 & #3: BFFN/ Natural Surprise BFP, early m/c -endometrial bx & methotrexate administered/ IVF#4:nothing to transfer/ DS IUI#1 BFN/ DS IUI#2 BFN/ IVF#5 (1st w/ DS):another BFFN/ Currently planning on DE and DS cycle Summer 2013. This has to be it- 
01-28-2013 at 12:35 PM
Gr8te
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The freezing process has come such a long way. Do you know the success rates for the labs that did the freezing and thawing? Maybe that will make you feel better. I'm having a good day, so I'm sending some of my good luck vibes your way. =) FX

~ Everyone Welcome ~
TTC: 05/2011 Me: 32, All Clear DH: 38 Dx: MFI Low Testosterone & 1% Morphology
IVF #1 w/ICSI & IMSI, 12/03/12: ER: 27R, 20M, 15F
4 blasts frozen (3BA 4BA 4BB 5BB) b/c of moderate OHSS
FET #1: 02/08/13 Transferred 3BA & 4BA | HPT 5dp5dt BFP!
10dp5dt Beta #1 - 810 | 12dp5dt Beta #2 - 1843
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01-28-2013 at 12:51 PM
liz4paws
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Thank you all so much for your support! I don't know much about the original clinic's freezing rates but the lab directors of both clinics have been in contact so I'm hoping that my clinic will know exactly what to do when the time comes.

And you're all right - I have no control. It stinks!

Here's what I *think* I know about the batch:

2003 - Using an egg donor, original recipient transferred two fresh, ended up with take-home baby twins. Nine were frozen and donated to donor recipient.

2006 - Donor recipient thawed four of the nine, two made it, one implanted resulting in a live birth of a singleton.

Five donated to me and here we are.

I'm hoping the history means good things. I'm trying to tell myself that the ones that made it to transfer had a 75% live birth rate. I wish I could turn my worry off like a faucet, but it's getting harder and harder each day that gets closer to transfer which I realized is in exactly two weeks. Holy cow. Cue panic.

I don't know what I'd do without you ladies talking me off my ledge sometimes! 


Me (31) DH (35) - Finding our path to baby #1
Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR
DH: Severe MFI
12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN
8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)
My ovaries seem to be just for decoration

12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
2/11/13 - Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts.

2/16/13 - First BFP of my life!
3/27/13 - No heartbeat at 9w0d. D&C the following day.

4/23/13 - Matched to adopt five new embryos!

My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake

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01-28-2013 at 12:54 PM
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***sig warning***

DH had this exact same fear when we were gearing up for our FET - that none of the 7 eggs we had frozen from our fresh cycle would survive the thaw.  We were told, if memory serves, that 80% of the time, the eggs do survive the thaw process.  I don't know if that was in general or just for that clinic though.

Best of luck with yours!


4/12/10 - Began TTC 8/2012 - IFV #1 - 18 follicles retrieved, 11 usable, 10 fertilized, 9 continued to grow, 2 tranferred, BFN :( 9/2012 - Treated for uterine infection 10/2012 - Uterine infection cleared up 11/12/12- Began IVF #2 12/19/12 - 2 embryos tranferred 12/24/12 - Tested Christmas Eve morning - BFP!!! :) 12/28/12 - Beta #1 - 193 12/31/12 - Beta #2 - 624 1/7/13 - Beta #3 - 7544 1/14/13 - Beta #4 - 31,067 1/16/13 - IT'S TWINS!!!! Two healthy heartbeats! Due Date - 9/6/13 Lilypie Pregnancy tickers  
01-28-2013 at 1:05 PM
Gr8te
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Wow...I would find comfort with that history. =) PP is right. It's out of your hands, so you just got to have faith that it will all work out. I remember your post when the embies arrived. I have good feelings about your upcoming transfer.


~ Everyone Welcome ~
TTC: 05/2011 Me: 32, All Clear DH: 38 Dx: MFI Low Testosterone & 1% Morphology
IVF #1 w/ICSI & IMSI, 12/03/12: ER: 27R, 20M, 15F
4 blasts frozen (3BA 4BA 4BB 5BB) b/c of moderate OHSS
FET #1: 02/08/13 Transferred 3BA & 4BA | HPT 5dp5dt BFP!
10dp5dt Beta #1 - 810 | 12dp5dt Beta #2 - 1843
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01-28-2013 at 1:40 PM
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***Siggy Warning***

 

 

Liz, remember that where you are getting your FET done is one of the best places around!  They will do their absolute best for your embies, I'm sure of it.  It's easier said than done, but try not to worry too much.  You want your embies to encounter a nice cozy, calm home inside you.   Wink


Anniversary
Me:29, DH:33
Started TTC June 2011
Cycles #1-10 = BFN
Cycle #11: 100 mg Clomid + TI =BFN
Referred to RE March 2012
HSG all clear, FSH = 13, Prolactin = 28, S/A = great
April 2012 MRI to check for brain tumor due to elevated Prolactin = clear
June 2012 Hysteroscopy to remove uterine polyps and partial septate
July 2012 IUI #1 7/7/12 = BFN
Aug 2012 IUI #2.1 Cancelled due to early/missed ovulation = BFN
September 2012 Forced break due to one huge cyst
October 2012 IUI #2.2 = BFN
November 2012 Begin BCPs for IVF #1
December 2012 IVF #1 = Delayed due to cyst. Start stims 12/22
January 2013 ER: 1/2, 14R, 10M, 9F
ET: 1/7 Transferred 1 "Perfect" blast! 4 frosties!
Beta #1: 99 BFP!/#2: 227/#3: 584/#4: 3,020.
1/30 One amazing heartbeat! 111 bpm
EDD: September 24, 2013
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01-28-2013 at 1:53 PM
Daysie
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Oh Hunny, I'm sure most of them will make. I know it's hard to shake that fear, but the likely hood of none of them surviving seems like such a long shot. I think you'll be ok. Hang in there liz!

♥TTC#1 since June 2010♥

BFP #1 - 2/14/2011 * Natural m/c - 2/28/2011 @5w4d
BFP #2 -7/9/2012 * Chemical Pregnancy
BFP #3 -10/12/12 * Missed m/c - 11/15/12 @8w4d
BFP #4 - 2/18/13 * EDD 11/1/13! Please Stick Around Little One!

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DH (31) - 06/2011 - All Normal!
Me (29) - Stage 2 endo, polyps, cysts, and septum, FSH- 7.8, AMH - 1.2.
Hysteroscopy/Lap - 11/17/11 - removed: Stage 2 Endo, 3 cysts, and polyps & septum fixed.
1/1/12 -Cycle #18 = Ovidrel+B2B IUI+Progesterone = BFN
1/28/12- Cycle # 19 = Ovidrel+B2B IUI #2+Progesterone = BFN
4/6/12 - Stims Begin!! 300 Follistim, 10 Novearel, ganirelix
4/16/12- Cycle Cancelled. Poor/Late responder
6/8/12 - Stims begin for IVF 1.2: 500 Follistim, 20 Novarel, Ganirelix
6/18/12 - Trigger
6/20/12 - ER = 20 Retrieved, 18 mature, 15 fertilized w/ICSI
6/25/12 - ET - One beautiful blast transferred. 9 to freeze
7/9/12 - Beta #1 = 450, 7/11/12 - Beta #2 = 350, 7/13/12 - Beta #3 = 198-chemical pregnancy
8/23/12 - Hysteroscopic Surgery scheduled - Adhesion removed.
9/2/12 - FET Cycle #1 - tfr'ed 2 5 day blasts, 1 hatching
10/5/12 - ET
10/10/12 - + HPT FX for a sticky baby!
11/2/12 - 2nd U/S - 1 ges sac, 2 beautiful babies 2 beautiful heart rates = 125!!
11/15/12 - 8 weeks, no heart beats
11/16/12 - D&E - Chromosome testing showed 2 normal females
12/17/12 - Embryos biopsied and sent for PGS and re-frozen.
12/26/12 - PGS results: 3 abnormal male embryos, 4 normal embryos remaining.
1/6/13 - Lupron start for FET #2.
1/17/13 - Baseline - Cyst delayed us by a week.
1/25/13 - Baseline #2
2/7/13 - Lining Check
2/13/13 - FET #2 - tfr'ed 2 5 day blasts
2/18/13 - BFP! +HPT, Please, Please stick little one(s)
2/26/13 - Beta #1 = 1361!! keep sticking little one!
2/28/13 - Beta #2 = 2787!! Thanks Be To GOD!!
3/2/13 - Beta #3 = 4959! What a little miracle we have!
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01-28-2013 at 2:50 PM
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Im always nervous about this also but it sounds like you have some troupers there that are going to do just fine. Best wishes!

Married 9-10-11
Together 6 years before marriage
Me 26 DH 28
TTC since 9/2011
Dx endo 2007 Sx laparoscopy
End bcp 9/2011
Dx annovulatory, DOR, Low AMH
Hysteroscopy due to polyp 2-1-12
IUI#1-3 Cancelled due to low response
IUI#4 BFFN
IVF#1 8/30 Beta#1 256, 8/31 Beta#2 482 BFP!! M/C 5w3d
FET#1 Cancelled due to uterine fluid and thin lining
FET#1.2Cancelled due to abnormal bleeding
Hysteroscopy 12/28/12 All clear
FET#1.3 2/2013 Cancelled
FET #1.4 3/19 BFFN
Good Luck to All!!
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