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01-29-2013 at 12:41 AM
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12 week blood test reveals baby's gender?

Has anyone else heard of a blood test, exclusively drawn from mom's blood, that determines the gender of the baby?

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01-29-2013 at 1:13 AM
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Yes, some of the cell-free DNA tests (like Materni21) can also be used to determine sex. Their primary use is to detect three trisomies, but they can also determine sex. 

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01-29-2013 at 7:16 AM
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It is called MaternityT21. I had the test at 10W6D and we knew at 12 weeks the fender of the baby.  They test for the Y chromosome so can tell you the gender.   I am AMA so I think the test is available if you have risk factors or are over 35.
 
01-29-2013 at 8:15 AM
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Yes, the MaterniT21 test can tell the sex of the baby by presence/absence of Y chromosome. However, that's not what the test is really for, and most insurance companies don't cover it. It's intended to check for three of the major genetic disorders (T13, T18, and T21) and it drives me crazy that it's become an "early sex detection test."

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01-29-2013 at 8:17 AM
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jerseygirl81:
Yes, the MaterniT21 test can tell the sex of the baby by presence/absence of Y chromosome. However, that's not what the test is really for, and most insurance companies don't cover it. It's intended to check for three of the major genetic disorders (T13, T18, and T21) and it drives me crazy that it's become an "early sex detection test."

Yup... because you know it's going to be used as an "early gender selection test" to abort babies of the wrong gender.

And yes, this is a problem, specifically in some cultural circles. Scary.

01-29-2013 at 8:21 AM
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Yes, the MaterniT21 test can tell the sex of the baby by presence/absence of Y chromosome. However, that's not what the test is really for, and most insurance companies don't cover it. It's intended to check for three of the major genetic disorders (T13, T18, and T21) and it drives me crazy that it's become an "early sex detection test."

Yup... because you know it's going to be used as an "early gender selection test" to abort babies of the wrong gender.

And yes, this is a problem, specifically in some cultural circles. Scary.

That and the fact that it's already incredibly hard to get, and if insurance companies think that people are going to be using it just to find out what they're having a few weeks earlier, I'm sure they'll be less willing to cover it.

I paid OOP because of a family history of T18 (and yes, I know that these things happen spontaneously and don't necessarily run in families, but I also have OCD and I panic about things). Sex determination was just a bonus.


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01-29-2013 at 8:25 AM
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I had the MaterniT21 test at 12 weeks. I got it done because of my anxiety and with me being AMA when I give birth. Like other posters mentioned, finding out the gender was just an added bonus. 
 
01-29-2013 at 8:36 AM
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jerseygirl81:
Yes, the MaterniT21 test can tell the sex of the baby by presence/absence of Y chromosome. However, that's not what the test is really for, and most insurance companies don't cover it. It's intended to check for three of the major genetic disorders (T13, T18, and T21) and it drives me crazy that it's become an "early sex detection test."

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01-29-2013 at 8:45 AM
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jerseygirl81:
Yes, the MaterniT21 test can tell the sex of the baby by presence/absence of Y chromosome. However, that's not what the test is really for, and most insurance companies don't cover it. It's intended to check for three of the major genetic disorders (T13, T18, and T21) and it drives me crazy that it's become an "early sex detection test."

 This.  I did it because I am AMA. I had no idea about the sex detection until my doctor called me to give me to results.  I really hope parents don't start asking for the test just to determine the sex.


 
01-29-2013 at 10:07 AM
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I HATE that this is going to be used solely as a way to get a jump on finding out what sex the baby is.  HATE!


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01-29-2013 at 12:27 PM
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I am not sure about the accuracy of this...but, my OB told me that this test was originally brought about for gender determination. However, she said, they wouldn't market it that way because of certain cultures (and, let's face it, some people in our own culture) would use it for gender selection.

I had it done, because I am 39 and am paranoid that something will be wrong. Same reason I had the NT scan and the blood work to go along with it, and will have any other testing offered that isn't invasive. I was prepared to do a CVS (which also gives gender), but felt it was much better to do the MaterniT21 because there is no risk to the baby. I want to be prepared for anything. Like the others said, gender was just an awesome bonus!


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01-29-2013 at 12:37 PM
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I don't think the majority of people will use it to choose the gender of their babies.  Think about what kind of person would be able to abort a baby based on gender.  Do you know anybody in real life like that? 

I took the test and would have aborted if any of the trisomies had come back positive.  Does that make me a monster too?

These times, they are a changing.

 
01-29-2013 at 12:51 PM
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I had the MaterniT21 to rule out abnormalities due to advanced maternal age.

And no, they were not able to determine the baby's sex. There's a 50/50 chance that can happen. So unless someone needs the test for medical reasons, I don't see how a doctor in this country would allow their patients to get it.


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01-29-2013 at 12:51 PM
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tmsgrl:

I don't think the majority of people will use it to choose the gender of their babies.  Think about what kind of person would be able to abort a baby based on gender.  Do you know anybody in real life like that? 

I took the test and would have aborted if any of the trisomies had come back positive.  Does that make me a monster too?

These times, they are a changing.

No, I would have terminated for the same reason.
(ETA: for chromosomal abnormalities, not gender)

And I'm not annoyed that it's being used for early sex determination because of the potential for abortions, I'm annoyed because it makes it more difficult to make the case to insurance companies that it's a useful diagnostic tool.


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01-29-2013 at 12:52 PM
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greekbaby1:

I am not sure about the accuracy of this...but, my OB told me that this test was originally brought about for gender determination. However, she said, they wouldn't market it that way because of certain cultures (and, let's face it, some people in our own culture) would use it for gender selection.

I don't think that's true, because the sex chromosome detection was only recently added as part of the results.


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01-29-2013 at 12:53 PM
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tmsgrl:

I don't think the majority of people will use it to choose the gender of their babies.  Think about what kind of person would be able to abort a baby based on gender.  Do you know anybody in real life like that? 

Educate yourself. It's a real issue, and it's going to be more common if a blood test can give gender results at 10-12 weeks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/12/19/barbara-kay-on-sex-selective-abortion-the-war-on-women-that-dares-not-speak-its-name/

There's a start. This isn't going to go well for girls.

01-29-2013 at 1:20 PM
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jerseygirl81:

I don't think that's true, because the sex chromosome detection was only recently added as part of the results.

I knew it was only recently that they would give gender, but I wasn't sure why. It would make sense.


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01-29-2013 at 3:44 PM
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I think a mother that feels the need to terminate due to gender, much less to certain chromosomal differences that may make it harder to raise a special needs child, probably wasn't prepared to be a mother to begin with. It kills me to think there is a special disposal service out there for babies with special needs...

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01-29-2013 at 4:12 PM
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CDumovich:
I think a mother that feels the need to terminate due to gender, much less to certain chromosomal differences that may make it harder to raise a special needs child, probably wasn't prepared to be a mother to begin with. It kills me to think there is a special disposal service out there for babies with special needs...

I disagree.  A mom that feels the need to terminate due to chromosomal problems wasn't prepared to be a mom of a special needs child.  Big difference.

 
01-29-2013 at 4:47 PM
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CDumovich:
I think a mother that feels the need to terminate due to gender, much less to certain chromosomal differences that may make it harder to raise a special needs child, probably wasn't prepared to be a mother to begin with. It kills me to think there is a special disposal service out there for babies with special needs...

A condition like Trisomy 13 isn't merely "chromosomal differences" or "special needs", it's terminal. 80% of those babies will die before they turn 1. Many of them won't even survive in utero. Same with Trisomy 18 - not survivivable for the majority of cases. It's not cool to guilt out those women who elected to terminate.


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01-29-2013 at 5:33 PM
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I don't think the majority of people will use it to choose the gender of their babies.nbsp; Think about what kind of person would be able to abort a baby based on gender.nbsp; Do you know anybody in real life like that?nbsp; I took the test and would have aborted if any of the trisomies had come back positive.nbsp; Does that make me a monster too? These times, they are a changing.


It's not as great an issue in the US so much as in extremely patriarchal societies like China and India. In some countries slash cultures, a girl is an economic burden and a boy is an economic asset. The 1 child policy in China, for example, is a problem because your children are your social security, but a wife joins her husbands family. If you only have a girl, you have nobody to take care of when you're old.

Sex selective abortions happen a lot in countries where daughters are an economic burden, not so much the US.
 
01-29-2013 at 5:43 PM
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CDumovich:
I think a mother that feels the need to terminate due to gender, much less to certain chromosomal differences that may make it harder to raise a special needs child, probably wasn't prepared to be a mother to begin with. It kills me to think there is a special disposal service out there for babies with special needs...


It is absolutely ridiculous for you to lump these groups of people together. My cousin delivered a baby with T18, she lived for less than a minute. No, that's not something that i want to experience. Get off of your high horse, thankfully we all have the option to make those heart wrenching decisions for ourselves.

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jerseygirl81:
CDumovich:
I think a mother that feels the need to terminate due to gender, much less to certain chromosomal differences that may make it harder to raise a special needs child, probably wasn't prepared to be a mother to begin with. It kills me to think there is a special disposal service out there for babies with special needs...
It is absolutely ridiculous for you to lump these groups of people together. My cousin delivered a baby with T18, she lived for less than a minute. No, that's not something that i want to experience. Get off of your high horse, thankfully we all have the option to make those heart wrenching decisions for ourselves.

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01-30-2013 at 12:41 AM
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jerseygirl81:
CDumovich:
I think a mother that feels the need to terminate due to gender, much less to certain chromosomal differences that may make it harder to raise a special needs child, probably wasn't prepared to be a mother to begin with. It kills me to think there is a special disposal service out there for babies with special needs...
It is absolutely ridiculous for you to lump these groups of people together. My cousin delivered a baby with T18, she lived for less than a minute. No, that's not something that i want to experience. Get off of your high horse, thankfully we all have the option to make those heart wrenching decisions for ourselves.

Agree. I think we're all aware that life isn't perfect, and when a woman makes the decision to get pregnant, it's with the knowledge that there's always a chance something may go wrong. But being pregnant doesn't mean we give up our right to continue making decisions for ourselves, especially such utterly personal, emotional, and completely life-changing decisions. 

What really irks me is that society wants to pass judgment on women who would choose not to have a special needs child, when public support (resources, assistance, and attitudes in general) is so sh*tty for special needs children, their families, and the adults they grow up to become.


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01-30-2013 at 3:16 PM
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CDumovich:
I think a mother that feels the need to terminate due to gender, much less to certain chromosomal differences that may make it harder to raise a special needs child, probably wasn't prepared to be a mother to begin with. It kills me to think there is a special disposal service out there for babies with special needs...

A condition like Trisomy 13 isn't merely "chromosomal differences" or "special needs", it's terminal. 80% of those babies will die before they turn 1. Many of them won't even survive in utero. Same with Trisomy 18 - not survivivable for the majority of cases. It's not cool to guilt out those women who elected to terminate.

This.

I don't know what I would do because, thank God, I have never had to be in that situation and I pray that I never have to. I look at my son, and I can't imagine terminating my own pregnancy. But on the same note, I look at my son, and I can't imagine giving birth to this little being that I love so much that literally has a death sentence hanging over his/her head, and I will have to watch while he/she suffers, only to ultimately say goodbye. 


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