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01-29-2013 at 12:05 PM
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NTTPR: Nightmares

I've googled this a lot over the years, but just seeing if any of you ladies have any experience, insight, or opinions on this.

Since I was a kid I have had very vivid dreams, except 99% of the time they aren't fluffy ones where I'm winning the lottery or having hot sex. Nope they are nightmares. Over the summer I even started scratching the skin off the top of my foot and bottom of my legs. Lately, the scratching has started again, this time it is on the top of my hand. I would PIP but I don't think anyone wants to see that.

This week alone I've dreamt that DH was getting his face ripped off by a hawk and a dinosaur was grabbing people, slashing them and pulling their insides out. Lovely huh?

I'm just wondering if any of you have experience with this or can think of anyway I can make these stop. I am just getting really tired of being afraid to sleep and waking up disturbed and soaked in sweat.

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01-29-2013 at 12:07 PM
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Have you spoken to a doctor about it?


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01-29-2013 at 12:08 PM
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I have vivid dreams too, but they're more weird vs scary.  No advice for the dreams, but maybe you could at least wear some light gloves or something to keep you from scratching till you get it figured out.

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01-29-2013 at 12:08 PM
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I have lots of nightmares too.  The only thing I've found that helps is to find patterns in the dreams.  For example, when I try to call 911 in the dreams the phone never works.  Ever.  And that's my cue to wake myself up.  I can't tell you how much this has helped.


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01-29-2013 at 12:10 PM
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MandJS:
Have you spoken to a doctor about it?

Not yet, I'm not sure how much they can help me except shoving meds down my throat.


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01-29-2013 at 12:11 PM
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I am constantly having nightmares, night terrors, etc. I found that they become worse when I am incredibly stressed out/worn out. If you are up to it, you should look up a meditation app for your phone and listen to it right before bedtime (you could even do it lying in bed before you fall asleep). There are a couple really great ones out there that help you clear your mind and relax by talking you through different techniques. It might help you have a more peaceful sleep.

 Also, I'm not sure about you, but when I dream I know 75% of the time that I'm dreaming and it's not real life. This is going to sound weird but when I was really little I had a dream that I was stuck in a building, and this guy called me over and told me that I was dreaming and all I needed to do to get out of it is to squeeze my eyes shut really hard. I still do that to this day and always wake up right away.

01-29-2013 at 12:11 PM
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Hmm sounds similar to something my cousin had when we were growing up. 

She had god awful nightmares and would move her legs around as if she was running.    She was diagnosed with "sleep terrors" and I think that she was given some kind of anti anxiety meds for it.

Might not be that, but worth getting a sleep study done anyway.


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01-29-2013 at 12:12 PM
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ColeRose:

MandJS:
Have you spoken to a doctor about it?

Not yet, I'm not sure how much they can help me except shoving meds down my throat.

I feel like hypno therapy could work for this situation...  



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01-29-2013 at 12:15 PM
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I'm sorry I have no suggestions to offer you. Those sound extremely scary. I have not had dreams like that but I have suffered from night terrors since I was in High School. I would have them maybe 5 mins after falling asleep multiple times a night. My mother took me to a doctor who told me that it "wasn't possible" for me to be dreaming that quickly becuase people don't enter R.E.M sleep for about 20 minutes. Needless to say I did not get the help I was looking for.

I have yet to get a handle on them or an explanation as to where they are coming from. Seeing me so frightened used to terrify DH when we first started dating. Now he thinks I should do a sleep study but I don't think that would work because I never know when they will happen. I hope things get better for you though.


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01-29-2013 at 12:18 PM
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I used to have horrible nightmares several nights a week. I still do on rare occasions. A few years ago, I started a dream journal. I know it sounds hokey, but it let me see a pattern in my dreams.

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01-29-2013 at 12:19 PM
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I also suffered from night terrors into adulthood. I decided to talk to my family doctor and she recommend a therapist. I started seeing the therapist who, in turn, recommend that I journal before bed. I did not want to take medication.

The journaling is to help write down/ relieve any stressors or anxiety from the day or for the next day. This has helped tremendously. Also, as another PP mentioned, finding the patterned in your dreams can be key to gaining control in the dream.

I find my terrors are much worse when I am anxious or stressed out. Good luck to you. I know how difficult and annoying this can be.

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01-29-2013 at 12:24 PM
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ColeRose:

MandJS:
Have you spoken to a doctor about it?

Not yet, I'm not sure how much they can help me except shoving meds down my throat. 

Hi! I have nightmares as well. It's always about a family member or my dogs dying. I can't remember having a happy dream.

I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder years ago and I took medication for awhile, but I hated it and now since we're TTC, I wanted to avoid going back on medication. The thing that has helped me is using a journal for cognitive behavioral therapy. I have an app on my tablet/phone and each night I go through all of the bad/sad/weird thoughts that I had that day and it teaches you to look at them differently. I definitely think it has helped me. I haven't been doing it lately and I've notice an increase in nightmares. I also have more trouble falling asleep.

If you're not ready to see a therapist and you don't want medication, it might be a good option for you!


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01-29-2013 at 12:26 PM
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MandJS:
ColeRose:

MandJS:
Have you spoken to a doctor about it?

Not yet, I'm not sure how much they can help me except shoving meds down my throat.

I feel like hypno therapy could work for this situation...  

I was going to suggest the same thing.  DH has had terrible nightmares in the past, just really awful things that when he tells me about them, even I get disturbed or sad.  He has found, for him, that sometimes the things he eats have an effect on his dreams, but he has also found a lot of relief with hypnosis. 


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01-29-2013 at 12:31 PM
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I used to have pretty terrible dreams when I was younger and I was told to write about my day before I went to bed. Kind of to release the stressors of the day from my brain. It worked for me. I have bad dreams every now and then but nothing too awful.

Some PPs suggested hypno therapy and having a sleep study done, and I think both might help you!


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01-29-2013 at 12:53 PM
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ColeRose:

MandJS:
Have you spoken to a doctor about it?

Not yet, I'm not sure how much they can help me except shoving meds down my throat.

A psychologist may be able to do a lot of help. While I agree that the mental help industry is way too overzealous with prescriptions I have a few friends who are psychologists and I think they really help their patients.


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01-29-2013 at 1:00 PM
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I used to have terrible nightmares when I was younger, would wake up crying probably once a week, until my dad bought me a dream catcher... you hang it in your window and it's supposed to capture the bad dreams and keep them out. It might be 100% hokey but whatever, I swear it works. I went on an exchange in grade 11 moved away for 3 months, the first month I had horrible dreams, like, would wake up and not want to go back to sleep, I made my mom mail me my dream catcher and they stopped. To this day, it hangs in the window in mine and h's bedroom and it's somewhere between 15-20 years old.

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01-29-2013 at 1:16 PM
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Are you an anxious person, Cole?



I think DS is having issues with nightmares/night terrors.... but he is a terribly anxious kid and gets that from his mother. :P



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01-29-2013 at 1:27 PM
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I have experienced something called sleep paralysis. Basically in my situation the subconcious mind is still in control and active as it is in dreams, but your concious mind is also awake. So you are essentially awake but dreaming. And since nature put in a fail safe that doesn't allow us to move too much while dreaming(this fail safe is sometimes faulty like in sleepwalkers) you are paralyzed for the duration of what is effectively a horrifying hallucination. And since you are in part already awake theres no definitive line between the fantasy and reality more like the blink of an eye.

I had these episodes pretty intensely for awhile around 3-4 times a week for about three months. I thought I was either going insane or my place was haunted. I was terrified of going to sleep. I did some research about triggers and also the biological reasons behind the terror which helped a little in and of itself. In my situation stress is a huge trigger. As is sleeping on my back. If I sleep on my back now I'm almost guareented to have an episode. Also some medications can cause an increase including sleep aids. I know the situation isn't exactly the same but maybe if you kept a log of how you slept and what you had to eat/drink just before bed you could find your trigger. 

Also you could do a little research into lucid dreaming. If you can take control of the dream maybe you could steer it away from the scary situations and wake up in a more calm manner.


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01-29-2013 at 1:35 PM
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I sympathize with this Cole. I have always had vivid dreams that were more often of nor nightmares, and as a kid I would wake up on the floor or smack myself.

First off the scratching: I would be careful to keep my nails trimmed and not too long and keep them filed so that they are not sharp at all. If you can stand it, light socks and gloves may help. I can't sleep with anything on my hands and feet, so I would just go with the first part of this suggestion.

 The Nightmares: Something I have found to work is to lay in bed and meditate before bed. At first I would visualize some of the things about the dreams that were scary but unrealistic. For example, I had one where I was eviscerated but had no pain and stayed alive. Understandably this freaked me out, but when I realized that this wasn't realistic, I was able to wake myself up. So I would focus on various parts of your dream that aren't realistic and visualize them to try and help you notice them in your dream. This also had the side effect of learning how to fly in some of my nightmares where I was deep asleep and couldn't wake up but now I can usually fly away and still be scared but make myself safer... weird I know, but it works.'

The other half of the meditation that I do, is to visualize nice and calming things. This is because if you stop with the scary visualization you are more likely to have a nightmare, and I would have a hard time falling asleep because I would anticipate it, which is unhelpful.

I lay there with my eyes close and imagine nice things. As a kid I would imagine that My Little Ponies were my friends and would protect me. Or I would visualize nice picnics in a flower filled field. This visualization would also help me calm down after waking up from a nightmare. 

Over time this habit has become less of a nightly thing and now I just clear my mind before sleep and visualize nice things if I wake up from a nightmare.

I hope this makes sense and helps you.

01-29-2013 at 2:36 PM
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Cindal:

I have experienced something called sleep paralysis. Basically in my situation the subconcious mind is still in control and active as it is in dreams, but your concious mind is also awake. So you are essentially awake but dreaming. And since nature put in a fail safe that doesn't allow us to move too much while dreaming(this fail safe is sometimes faulty like in sleepwalkers) you are paralyzed for the duration of what is effectively a horrifying hallucination. And since you are in part already awake theres no definitive line between the fantasy and reality more like the blink of an eye.

I had these episodes pretty intensely for awhile around 3-4 times a week for about three months. I thought I was either going insane or my place was haunted. I was terrified of going to sleep. I did some research about triggers and also the biological reasons behind the terror which helped a little in and of itself. In my situation stress is a huge trigger. As is sleeping on my back. If I sleep on my back now I'm almost guareented to have an episode. Also some medications can cause an increase including sleep aids. I know the situation isn't exactly the same but maybe if you kept a log of how you slept and what you had to eat/drink just before bed you could find your trigger. 

Also you could do a little research into lucid dreaming. If you can take control of the dream maybe you could steer it away from the scary situations and wake up in a more calm manner.

 

I have had a few episodes of sleep paralysis, and I agree, it is terrifying. It's hard to describe at times. But I think the original name for it "Old Hag Syndrome" is a good fit, since most people say it feels like there is something sitting on their chest.


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01-29-2013 at 2:45 PM
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Cindal:

I have experienced something called sleep paralysis. Basically in my situation the subconcious mind is still in control and active as it is in dreams, but your concious mind is also awake. So you are essentially awake but dreaming. And since nature put in a fail safe that doesn't allow us to move too much while dreaming(this fail safe is sometimes faulty like in sleepwalkers) you are paralyzed for the duration of what is effectively a horrifying hallucination. And since you are in part already awake theres no definitive line between the fantasy and reality more like the blink of an eye.

I had these episodes pretty intensely for awhile around 3-4 times a week for about three months. I thought I was either going insane or my place was haunted. I was terrified of going to sleep. I did some research about triggers and also the biological reasons behind the terror which helped a little in and of itself. In my situation stress is a huge trigger. As is sleeping on my back. If I sleep on my back now I'm almost guareented to have an episode. Also some medications can cause an increase including sleep aids. I know the situation isn't exactly the same but maybe if you kept a log of how you slept and what you had to eat/drink just before bed you could find your trigger. 

Also you could do a little research into lucid dreaming. If you can take control of the dream maybe you could steer it away from the scary situations and wake up in a more calm manner.

This is the exact thing that I would experience but could never figure out what it was! In the beginning it would only happen if I slept on my back so I switched sleeping positions. Unfortunately I now have them no matter my position.


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01-29-2013 at 4:18 PM
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I can totally relate. I have had really vivid horrible nightmares since I was very small. They usually involve being chased down by some type of evil/scary force or being forced to witness horrible acts of violence. We are talking nightmares every. single. night. I don't scratch myself in my sleep but I do grind my teeth so bad that I have pretty much ruined my jaw joint, to the point that it was stuck in a locked position for about 4 months last year.

Basically I found that the meds will work, almost immediately, if you are up for taking them. Not only will you not dream, but you can actually get sleep which is amazing.
Having said that, I don't take sleep meds anymore. I have found EMDR and traditional therapy to be super effective. At this point I am only having nightmares a few times a month. I did make other "sleep hygiene" changes like not using electronics in bed and doing the same routine before bed every night, but I had tried those things prior to therapy and they were never helpful on their own.
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